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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true and anyone who thinks that the left's push for taxing the rich more is based on an honest belief of more revenues is clueless as well
    false, and anyone who thinks that the rights' push for cutting taxes on the rich is based on an honest belief in economic growth is ignoring the facts.
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    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    true and anyone who thinks that the left's push for taxing the rich more is based on an honest belief of more revenues is clueless as well
    I'm starting to see this whole "class-warfare" argument as just a silly strawman by the Right.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I'm starting to see this whole "class-warfare" argument as just a silly strawman by the Right.
    would you please expand on the comment above. Not sure what you mean.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    would you please expand on the comment above. Not sure what you mean.
    The only class warfare going on is the rights war against the middle class. The left just wants the rich to pay their fair share.
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    would you please expand on the comment above. Not sure what you mean.

    Right-wing extremists often accuse the Left and Democrats of trying to wage "class-warfare", by wanting to raise taxes on the wealthy by 3%. I now see this as a strawman.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Governor Cuomo cut billions of dollars from programs that help the poor and middle-class.

    And yet, he let the Millionaire's tax expire.

    This is REAL class-warfare. And he's a Democrat.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    The first graph shows job growth trending upwards under a Democratic House. The 2nd shows the job growth trend after the repubs took over the House.

    What is the difference?



    Obama isn't growing government jobs like he was.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Μολὼν λαβέ View Post
    Obama isn't growing government jobs like he was.
    So much for the "the govt can't create jobs" whine the rightwingers love
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    class warfare in deep blue ny:

    "we have the worst business tax climate in the nation, period, our taxes are 66% higher than the national average"

    "the costs of pensions are exploding... a 476% increase and its only getting worse"

    "the state of new york spends too much money, it is that blunt and it is that simple"

    "an unsustainable rate of growth and it has been for a long time"

    "not only do we spend too much, but we get too little in return"

    "the large government we have is all too often responsive to the special interests over the people"

    "new yorkers are voting with their feet, two million new yorkers have left the state over the past decade"

    "what does this say, it says we need radical reform, it says we need a new approach, we need a new perspective and we need it now"

    "this is a fundamental realignment for the state"

    "the old way wasn't working anyway, let's be honest"

    "we want a government that puts the people first and not the special interests first"

    "what made new york the empire state was a not a large government complex, it was a vibrant private sector that was creating great jobs"

    "and that's what's going to make us the empire state again"

    "at the heart of this state is business"

    "we have to relearn the lesson our founders knew and we have to put up a sign that says new york is open for business, we get it, and this is going to be a business friendly state"

    "we are going to have to confront the tax situation in our state, property taxes in this state are killing new yorkers, thirteen of the sixteen highest tax counties are in new york when assessed by home value"

    "westchester county has the highest property taxes in the united states, nassau county has the second highest"

    "it has to end, it has to end this year"

    "we have to hold the line on taxes for now and reduce taxes in the future, new york has no future as the tax capital of the nation, our young people will not stay, our business will not come"

    "put it simply, the people of this state simply cannot afford to pay any more taxes, period"

    "we have to start with an emergency financial plan to stabilize our finances, we need to hold the line and we need to institute a wage freeze in the state of new york, we need to hold the line on taxes, we need a state spending cap and we need to close this $10 billion gap without any borrowing"

    GOVERNOR ANDREW M. CUOMO STATE OF THE STATE ADDRESS | Governor Andrew M. Cuomo

    the gub aint just talkin, either

    Cuomo budget: $10 billion deficit cut, no new taxes, layoffs likely

    and that sophisticated new york audience is going wild

    Andrew Cuomo approval sky-high, new poll suggests - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

    the lay of the land, the political landscape, ie, reality

    from athens to sacto, as inevitable as physics, nothing you can do to stop it

    austerity, embrace it

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