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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Haha, where do you keep finding this crap?
    • Are we supposed to believe that a 38.6% tax creates almost no jobs, but a 39.6% tax creates huge amounts of jobs?
    • That 35% is the magic number for no jobs, and 28-31% will get you some jobs?

    And what's up with these ranges anyway?
    • Why do you bother to but the 38.6% number on the chart (in effect for one year) -- and not put the 92% tax bracket on the chart, which was in effect for two years?
    • Is it because at 92% tax, there was negative job growth (-1.0), so you hide that in a 90+ category?
    • You wouldn't be using ranges for the high income tax brackets because you know that job creation goes up predictably with a few blips during recessions, and by averaging out over long periods of time you're guaranteed a nice, high value... nahh, couldn't be.

    Why 1950-2010?
    • Is it because including the 63% and 73% tax brackets from the 1930's and the pitiful growth associated with that period would destroy the illusion you're trying to put together?


    Those folks at the Center for American Progress are a real class act.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    What happens when you get fooled 11 times?




    Just how dumb does someone have to be to get fooled 11 times?



    Even Charlie Brown is capable of learning
    Excellent illustrations for describing liberals' spending cut promises.
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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    What happens when you get fooled 11 times?

    Just how dumb does someone have to be to get fooled 11 times?
    I have no idea, but when it comes to virtue and sin, I would, by far, prefer to be dumb over lying and dishonest.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    We are all responsible for making sure that the one term Marxist president Obama is replaced by anyone, preferably, a conservative natural born American.


    What do you mean?? this is his birth certificate
    Catch me if you can.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Why haven't they introduced any jobs bills?
    Didn't the house approve repealing Obamacare? Wouldn't that be a massive jobs bill? Imagine taking the government's jackboot off the neck of businesses.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Then get a second job and pay more taxes, but don't expect me to solve my problems the same way you do. You speak for yourself, and yourself alone.
    Running from the point already? This debt is all of ours, assuming you are an Ameircan.

    But the point is we tackle both expenditure and revenue if you're serious.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I know that the US has more red welfare states than blue welfare states
    and only an idiot would claim that any state is 100% red or blue

    California has millions of poor dems and tons of very wealthy dems and republicans. the groups with the lowest incomes and education however almost always favor the dems



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by FilmFestGuy View Post
    #1 is ABSOLUTELY false. If government hires people to build roads, schools, electric infrastructure (either directly or through contracts) it most definitely creates jobs.

    If you cut government spending, you cut jobs and raise unemployment. If federal, state, and local governments hadn't had to shed so many jobs over the past year and half or so, the unemployment picture would look vastly different right now.

    The only ne'er-do-wells suckling the government teat I see is now the leading contender for the GOP - between farm subsidies, her husbands Medicaid receipts to "pray away the gay", and her salary, Bachmann is pulling in about $541,000/year in taxpayer dollars.

    She just doesn't want government spending on anybody but her.
    that is a big if that is not related to tax hikes in themselves. SO you completely fail there

    so using your logic we should have no private industry and take tons more taxes and everyone can get government jobs

    using bachman is stupid. Romney pays more taxes than 55 million americans do in income taxes combined



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by jding View Post
    I honestly do not see anything wrong with raising taxes. No I don't like taxes, but I am obligated to pay for the spending. I cannot expect the next generation to pay for them or feel good about borrowing foreign money to cover my own yearly spending. It's wrong, just morally wrong. If I spend 100 I will pay 100 tax to cover it. If we don't pay taxes to cover our spending we are essentially been irresponsible people who spend and spend but just borrow from younger generation or foreign creditors. People who do not like to raising national debt, should talk about paying taxes. I'm not talking about paying more than the government needs, just your share that you spent for that year. No more no less. I don't understand how republicans can talk about lowering national debt while give out tax cuts, it's like talking about lower dependence on foreign oil while encourage using gas gulping v8 engines in every car. It's self contradictory.
    so who do you want to raise taxes on

    those who already pay far more than their share?
    or those who pay almost nothing?



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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Red Crow View Post
    What do you mean?? this is his birth certificate
    That was pretty funny.

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