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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    there's just not enough money in the galaxy

    ie, if something isn't done NOW to fundamentally reform our big 3 federal programs, then social security and medicare and medicaid will simply cease to exist for our next generation

    june 13: U.S. funding for future promises lags by trillions - USATODAY.com

    The federal government's financial condition deteriorated rapidly last year, far beyond the $1.5 trillion in new debt taken on to finance the budget deficit, a USA TODAY analysis shows.

    The government added $5.3 trillion in new financial obligations in 2010, largely for retirement programs such as Medicare and Social Security. That brings to a record $61.6 trillion the total of financial promises not paid for.

    Medicare alone took on $1.8 trillion in new liabilities, more than the record deficit prompting heated debate between Congress and the White House over lifting the debt ceiling.

    Social Security added $1.4 trillion in obligations, partly reflecting longer life expectancies. Federal and military retirement programs added more to the financial hole, too.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    I find it ironic that everybody was giving him ****, saying he needed to take a stand. Strap on a pair. So he does, and everybody has the nerve to look surprised.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    I find it ironic that everybody was giving him ****, saying he needed to take a stand. Strap on a pair. So he does, and everybody has the nerve to look surprised.
    Too little too late.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Goodly grief he's practically giving the Republicans the bill they want on a silver platter. He's not even asking for tax cuts perse just closing some corporate jet loop holes and similar benign stuff. Republicans are stupid to argue with that. But what must have happened (why Bohnner changed his tune) was the figures must have been crunched finally and the conservatives now realize the big deal we wanted at first would have to include tada! Revenue raising! So that's why the smaller number now which even has some Republicans scratching their heads.
    But yeah seriously, Bohner should take the deal as it stands.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Salty View Post
    Republicans are stupid to argue with that.
    They're not stupid, just Machiavellian.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    They're not stupid, just Machiavellian.
    It's amazing to hear Leftists compare Conservatives to Machiavelli. Plumb amazing!

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Too little too late.
    "Too little"? He has doubled the number the Republicans initially asked for.

    This Congress sure isn't afraid to move the goal posts, consistency be damned.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It's amazing to hear Leftists compare Conservatives to Machiavelli. Plumb amazing!
    Really? It's surprising to you?

    I'd say 99% of our politicians could be described this way.
    Quote Originally Posted by Swizz View Post
    "Too little"? He has doubled the number the Republicans initially asked for.

    This Congress sure isn't afraid to move the goal posts, consistency be damned.
    Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Really? It's surprising to you?

    I'd say 99% of our politicians could be described this way.


    Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
    You don't know anything about Machiavelli, do you?

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    Re: Obama: No Deal Without Tax Hikes

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Really? It's surprising to you?

    I'd say 99% of our politicians could be described this way.


    Reality has a well-known liberal bias.
    In a classical sense, yes. In terms of modern Progressivism, no.

    One needs to learn the difference between Classical Liberalism and Progressivism. They are two very different things.

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