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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    So a group of DEA agents popped popcorn, watched "Reefer Madness", then decided that they needed to have as many people to bust as possible. Highly predictable.

    No, weed won't cure anything, but neither will any prescription medicine outside of antibiotics. It has to do with a person's quality of life. Anyone taking pain relief prescribed medicine can tell you just how fast a body builds up a tolerance to those pills. Not to mention, many become dingy and slow thinking due to the side effects.

    If we let big pharma control the prescribed marijuana and benefit from the profits thereof, it would be legal in all 50 states tomorrow.
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    I would like to remind the DEA that kids can get their hands on pot easier than they can alcohol.
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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    "I'm going get stoned so I feel no pain." Yea, it's for the pain. It's not for the high you get smoking weed. It has no medical uses, it kills pain because it makes you high. Ice kills pain too. It also helps the healing process.

    But that being said, as long as you're not forcing someone to smoke a blunt, I don't care what you do. It's your body, but don't give me some bullshyt ass excuse that you're smoking it for medical reasons. You're smoking it to get high. Pain killers kill the pain, but without the high. No wonder the dope fiends want to smoke dope.

    We have plenty of meds out there that can alleviate pain. Don't give me that ****.

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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    "I'm going get stoned so I feel no pain." Yea, it's for the pain. It's not for the high you get smoking weed. It has no medical uses, it kills pain because it makes you high. Ice kills pain too. It also helps the healing process.

    But that being said, as long as you're not forcing someone to smoke a blunt, I don't care what you do. It's your body, but don't give me some bullshyt ass excuse that you're smoking it for medical reasons. You're smoking it to get high. Pain killers kill the pain, but without the high. No wonder the dope fiends want to smoke dope.

    We have plenty of meds out there that can alleviate pain. Don't give me that ****.
    Have you ever tried marijuana?
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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    "I'm going get stoned so I feel no pain." Yea, it's for the pain. It's not for the high you get smoking weed. It has no medical uses, it kills pain because it makes you high. Ice kills pain too. It also helps the healing process.

    But that being said, as long as you're not forcing someone to smoke a blunt, I don't care what you do. It's your body, but don't give me some bullshyt ass excuse that you're smoking it for medical reasons. You're smoking it to get high. Pain killers kill the pain, but without the high. No wonder the dope fiends want to smoke dope.

    We have plenty of meds out there that can alleviate pain. Don't give me that ****.
    There are no doubt many that smoke it just to get high. There are also a lot of folks that have legit pains that dont smoke it just to get high. Some people dont react well to pain meds. Any of the Oxy/Roxi family of drugs has absolutely no impact on me regardless of dosage. If I need pain meds (very seldom, even post op with my knee replacement) I need some serious KYBO drugs. Delaudid and morphine works in the appropriate dosage...but then...its lights out. Its pretty foolish to force people to ingest synthetic drugs for pain when something like marijuana is available, plentiful, and cheap. Now...why would major pharmaceutical companies object to a drug that is non-addictive, available, cheap, and if desired can be grown at home?

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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    "I'm going get stoned so I feel no pain." Yea, it's for the pain. It's not for the high you get smoking weed. It has no medical uses, it kills pain because it makes you high. Ice kills pain too. It also helps the healing process.

    But that being said, as long as you're not forcing someone to smoke a blunt, I don't care what you do. It's your body, but don't give me some bullshyt ass excuse that you're smoking it for medical reasons. You're smoking it to get high. Pain killers kill the pain, but without the high. No wonder the dope fiends want to smoke dope.

    We have plenty of meds out there that can alleviate pain. Don't give me that ****.
    Marijuana doesn't just kill pain. It counteracts the nausea and loss of appetite associated with chemotherapy and radiation treatment. It's a safe and natural alternative to the slew of synthetic medications that also carry terrible side effects. There are people out there who use it as legitimate medication. Just because pot can be fun and recreational doesn't negate it's medicinal potential. Morphine can be fun and recreational too, but it also has medicinal uses and is currently less illegal than marijuana.
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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    "I'm going get stoned so I feel no pain." Yea, it's for the pain. It's not for the high you get smoking weed. It has no medical uses, it kills pain because it makes you high. Ice kills pain too. It also helps the healing process.

    But that being said, as long as you're not forcing someone to smoke a blunt, I don't care what you do. It's your body, but don't give me some bullshyt ass excuse that you're smoking it for medical reasons. You're smoking it to get high. Pain killers kill the pain, but without the high. No wonder the dope fiends want to smoke dope.

    We have plenty of meds out there that can alleviate pain. Don't give me that ****.
    So, I had a conversation with my Urologist.

    "We are going to put you on Elmiron. We don't know how it works, just that it does."

    "What do you mean you don't know how it works?"

    "Well, they haven't been able to figure that out just yet."

    "Oh, okay."

    Common Side Effects of Elmiron
    Elmiron has been studied thoroughly in clinical trials. In these studies, the side effects that occurred in a group of people taking the drug were documented and then compared to the side effects that occurred in another group of people taking a placebo (a "sugar pill" that does not contain any active ingredients). As a result, it was possible to see what side effects occurred, how often they appeared, and how they compared to the group not taking the medicine.

    The most common Elmiron side effects (occurring in approximately 1 percent to 4 percent of people) include:


    Hair loss
    Diarrhea
    Nausea
    Headache
    Blood in the stool
    Unexplained rash
    Bruising
    Indigestion
    Abdominal pain (stomach pain)
    Increase in liver enzymes
    Dizziness.

    Yes, I have some of the side effects.

    Mow, Mr. Judgemental, which alternative is best?

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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    "I'm going get stoned so I feel no pain." Yea, it's for the pain. It's not for the high you get smoking weed. It has no medical uses, it kills pain because it makes you high. Ice kills pain too. It also helps the healing process.

    But that being said, as long as you're not forcing someone to smoke a blunt, I don't care what you do. It's your body, but don't give me some bullshyt ass excuse that you're smoking it for medical reasons. You're smoking it to get high. Pain killers kill the pain, but without the high. No wonder the dope fiends want to smoke dope.

    We have plenty of meds out there that can alleviate pain. Don't give me that ****.
    1) It's not just for pain, it has a number of other uses (preventing the nausea and lack of appetite for chemo patients is at the top of the list).

    2) Most other things prescribed for pain are substantially more addictive and ultimately dangerous than marijuana.

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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwest Lib View Post
    You can bet your ass I will be at the polls, but this may well be the straw that has broken the camel's back for me. Assuming it's Romney v Obama, I'm strongly considering voting independent. I will however vote Obama over a few potential candidates I will leave unnamed. Don't assume all liberals (or conservatives for that matter) will vote straight ticket regardless of political climate.
    All? No... 95%... yes.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    So, I had a conversation with my Urologist.

    "We are going to put you on Elmiron. We don't know how it works, just that it does."

    "What do you mean you don't know how it works?"

    "Well, they haven't been able to figure that out just yet."

    "Oh, okay."

    Common Side Effects of Elmiron
    Elmiron has been studied thoroughly in clinical trials. In these studies, the side effects that occurred in a group of people taking the drug were documented and then compared to the side effects that occurred in another group of people taking a placebo (a "sugar pill" that does not contain any active ingredients). As a result, it was possible to see what side effects occurred, how often they appeared, and how they compared to the group not taking the medicine.

    The most common Elmiron side effects (occurring in approximately 1 percent to 4 percent of people) include:


    Hair loss
    Diarrhea
    Nausea
    Headache
    Blood in the stool
    Unexplained rash
    Bruising
    Indigestion
    Abdominal pain (stomach pain)
    Increase in liver enzymes
    Dizziness.

    Yes, I have some of the side effects.

    Mow, Mr. Judgemental, which alternative is best?
    You should check for alternatives if the side effects are bothering you. Consult with your Doctor and if you don't want to take it, dont. You should also do some research on your condition and check with support groups and what others have found works for them. Just a cursory check for IC type conditions yielded quite a lot:

    Atarax
    Vesicare
    Saroten (Elavil)

    CystoProtek & Deser Harest Aloe Vera
    Licorice Root
    Quercetin
    Glucosamine Sulfate
    Mullein
    Slippery Elm
    Probiotics
    Marshamallow Root
    Flax Seed Oil
    Bladder-Q
    Quercetin
    Hyaluronic Acid


    Marijuana wasn't (fortunately or unfortunately) on the list. More than a few seemed to like the CystoProtek & Deser Harest Aloe Vera combo even when taken with Elmiron.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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