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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    what about the evidence of helping with glaucoma and the nausea created from chemotherapy?

    did they say this evidence is bogus?

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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    Actually, over the last couple of decades, the authorities have gotten downright jack-booted about pain management doctors and the prescriptions they give to their patients...
    Two things:

    1) I don't know that that's as universally true as you might think (and I have personal and anecdotal reasons to believe as much).

    2) I'm talking less about pain management (vicodin reference to the contrary) than I am about various prescriptions related to depression and anxiety, which are given out like candy.

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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    Two things:

    1) I don't know that that's as universally true as you might think (and I have personal and anecdotal reasons to believe as much).
    I've been doing a lot of reading about overcriminalization (starting with Harvey Silvergate's "Three Felonies a Day"), and this has figured pretty prominently.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aderleth View Post
    2) I'm talking less about pain management (vicodin reference to the contrary) than I am about various prescriptions related to depression and anxiety, which are given out like candy.
    Fair enough.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    Marijuana has no curative medical effects. It has a sedative effect and is more beneficial than most pain killers to many of those that use it. It is a pretty obvious fact that lots of people have recieved their 'card' that prolly dont 'need' medicinal marijuana.

    I think it should be made legal for recreational use.

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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I think it should be made legal for recreational use.
    if you are over 18, and one can only possess a small amount.

    in order to grow it, you should get a license. and there should be govt. regulated distribution centers for such grown weed.

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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I've been doing a lot of reading about overcriminalization (starting with Harvey Silvergate's "Three Felonies a Day"), and this has figured pretty prominently.

    You may have more accurate information than I do re: painkillers if you've actually been researching the subject. I haven't done any actual research. I'm mostly basing my opinion on my own experiences and those of my friends. For example, two or three years ago I had been having occasional recurrent (but severe) stomach pains (probably related to the appendicitis I eventually needed) and I told my doctor I wanted a prescription for something on a "just in case" basis. I.e., a small amount of some painkiller on the off-chance that I'd need it once or twice a year. He gave me a prescription for 40 high dosage vicodin, and a refill for same. Frankly I was floored. Maybe that wouldn't happen today? Maybe it was just a result of the fact that I live in urban California and we (as a population) do lots of drugs?

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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    [QUOTE=Thunder;1059640402]if you are over 18, and one can only possess a small amount.

    in order to grow it, you should get a license. and there should be govt. regulated distribution centers for such grown weed.[/QUOTE]

    Why? I agree the law should be age appropriate (18, 21, it weont get passed but let them hammer it out). But I see no reason why individuals shouldnt be allowed to grow for their own use and create a cash crop as well. No different than any other farmer or agro-producer. Hell, we can legalize it, roll them, and sell them to the Columbians and Panamanians!

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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Marijuana has no curative medical effects. It has a sedative effect and is more beneficial than most pain killers to many of those that use it. It is a pretty obvious fact that lots of people have recieved their 'card' that prolly dont 'need' medicinal marijuana.

    I think it should be made legal for recreational use.

    Marijuana is good for pain management, to be sure, but also good for (e.g.) nausea relief for chemo patients. I agree it has no curative properties, but neither do many psychoactive drugs (e.g. xanax, etc) that are not treated as Schedule I narcotics. Put another way, there are tons of things that doctors prescribe that merely reduce the symptoms of medical conditions rather than resolving underlying causes. There's no good reason I've seen that marijuana shouldn't be one of those things.

    Obviously I agree that it should be legal for personal use independent of its medical benefits. In a free society, we do not need reasons to make something legal, we need reasons to make something illegal.

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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    But I see no reason why individuals shouldnt be allowed to grow for their own use and create a cash crop as well.
    sure, licensed.

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    Re: U.S. decrees that marijuana has no accepted medical use

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    sure, licensed.
    As with any other business...

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