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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Who is for more efficient light bulbs? Consumers, and yes, even the light bulb manufacturers.
    Then the law shouldn't matter because they'd just buy the swirly bulbs anyways, right?

    Or are they for more efficient light bulbs but will magically be brain washed by the big evil voodoo republicans into buying less efficient ones against their will?

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    Watch out badmutha, whenever someone disagrees with oC, they HAVE to be lying.
    OC needs to watch the personal attacks.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
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    Very good point, things get momentaryily derailed sometimes, when people get personal. Guess we should watch that.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I hope so. I'll certaintly take your word for it that some test claims this. I'll see for myself at some point. Might be awhile if these bulbs are $6.00 or more.



    Any single bulb uses very little electricty in a year.



    Still, if it's a good deal, people will switch on their own.
    LED's save a lot of energy but only under certain conditions is the payback for the energy saved vs the cost of the lamps or fixtures very good. In order to make it cost effective you need conditions where an LED lamp or light fixture operates for long periods of time. An example would exterior lighting that stays on all night. You also have to have a condition where you can live with lower illumination levels when you use LED. They just don't make direct LED replacement lamps in a package that can fit into existing light fixtures and give you the same light output. The LED lamp manufacturers try to sell that new LED replacements produce a more efficent or higher quality light so you don't need as much light output but that is just not true in a lot of cases. The energy payback for using these LED replacemnt lamps in your home is probably 15 to 20 years. I love the new LED lighting technology for a lot of applications like signage and exit lights and decorative lighting applications. Hopefully it will get less expensive and the technology will improve to make it more viable in the years to come.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Considering that the new bulbs last much longer than the old ones, and use much less electricity on top of it, consumers are actually saving money.
    Not necessarily. Compact fluorescents only maintain their energy advantage if you leave them on for long periods of time. If you're the type of person who uses the bathroom light only when you're in the bathroom - compact fluorescents will last no longer than incandescent bulbs, will produce inferior light, cost five times as much, and will likely end up leaching mercury in a landfill.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Who is for more efficient light bulbs? Consumers, and yes, even the light bulb manufacturers. Who is against it? Energy companies who want to charge you for using more electricity, and who have House Republicans in their back pocket.
    My electricity company wants to charge me so much that they send tips for reducing energy costs with every bill, provide dozens of pages on their website on the same topic, and provide free in-home consulations on ways to reduce energy costs.

    Funny that after all of that, they are secretly plotting with house republicans to bleed me dry in a devious scheme that would allow me a choice of what bulbs I want to use.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Most people don't think more then a month ahead. Furthermore, power companies are in on this too as it reduces the additional capacity they have to increase at the same making it easier to meet renewable percentages. In the long run, this is basically better for everyone except incandescent manufacturers and jewelers.
    They do not need to think more than a month ahead. The world will not end if we do not have all of our bulbs changed by the end of the year. For many $10 is a hell of a price to pay for a lightbulb. (When they get this low)

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    We switched over to the new bulbs about 8 months ago. While I haven't noticed a difference in my utility bill, I haven't had to replace any bulbs over this time.

    Having said that, I think it more important for the government to worry about nuclear plants aging and safety requirements constantly being downgraded just to keep them on line.

    Wind generated power is rapidly expanding, and it leaves no waste and is very efficient. That, IMO would do far more to reduce our foreign oil dependency.
    This is a very good point. They are so concerned about what light bulbs we use but they can't even balance their own budget.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The consumers want to pay twice as much for a light bulb? I don't buy that. Are you excited about paying 5 times more for freon for your a/c, too?
    To save up to $900 a year in energy costs, only a stupid person wouldn't.

    Besides, this does NOT outlaw incandescent light bulbs - it outlaws inefficient ones.

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