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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Back your theme of revolution by the 1% against the 99%??? LOL!
    You may be stupid and unprepared. I choose not to be.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Back your theme of revolution by the 1% against the 99%??? LOL!
    There is no 1% against the 99% just as there is no 99% against the 1%.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    There is no 1% against the 99% just as there is no 99% against the 1%.
    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    You may be stupid and unprepared. I choose not to be.
    Mister V is convinced we are heading for a revolution between the 1% and the 99%, he's preparing for the worst. So you two work it out and get back to us.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    It is laughable that some of you found a few halogen bulbs that are as cheap or cheaper than incandescent bulbs. I had some personal experience on that matter last weekend. One of our bulbs in a recessed fixture blew out in the living room. I had put led bulbs in them, but my wife continually complained that she couldn't read anything, so we switched them back.

    We went to the store to buy some replacements. We got a 4 pack of bulbs for just under $12. A package of one comparable halogen bulb was almost $9.

    I believe the stores are putting some halogen bulbs in free to draw in customers, but if you need anything other than a vanilla bulb, they stick it to you for the halogens.

    • "The America Republic will endure until the day Congress discovers that it can bribe the public with the public's money." -- Alexis de Tocqueville





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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post

    Can you show me, say from a book like "Limits to Growth" that essentially predicted we were running out of everything, a half dozen examples of them being right?

    Or will you only show me self-fulfilling prophecy? If you claim we are going to run out of oil then politically obstruct every effort to find and exploit the oil so that oil production plateaus does that mean you are right? I don't think so.
    So your opinion is there has been a conspiracy of both political parties for the last 30 some years to reduce production below the demand???? Because the fact is there hasn't been a single year since 1971 when we produced as much oil as we consumed, under either political party.

    Do you expect that finite fossil fuel supplies should magically grow as does the population???
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Mister V is convinced we are heading for a revolution between the 1% and the 99%, he's preparing for the worst. So you two work it out and get back to us.
    I have nothing to work out as there is nothing to work out. He may believe what he believes and we know that you are a tad askew anyway.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Mister V is convinced we are heading for a revolution between the 1% and the 99%, he's preparing for the worst. So you two work it out and get back to us.
    I am convinced that chaos is coming. There will be oil shortages, food shortages and possibly worse coming.

    I will be prepared. When the time comes I will (briefly) wonder what happened to you.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    So your opinion is there has been a conspiracy of both political parties for the last 30 some years to reduce production below the demand???? Because the fact is there hasn't been a single year since 1971 when we produced as much oil as we consumed, under either political party.

    Do you expect that finite fossil fuel supplies should magically grow as does the population???
    Can we try this once again. Can you show me five or six examples of he things the Club of Rome predicted we would be out of by now in the book, Limits to Growth? I have that book around here somewhere, I think. Have we run out of anything?

    When we come close to running out in a few hundreds of years there will be something else to take its place.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I am convinced that chaos is coming. There will be oil shortages, food shortages and possibly worse coming.

    I will be prepared. When the time comes I will (briefly) wonder what happened to you.
    The time to prepare was 30 years ago, you are a little late. That's why I have become more energy independent over the last 30 years. To bad the more people didn't listen to Carter, eh?
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Can we try this once again. Can you show me five or six examples of he things the Club of Rome predicted we would be out of by now in the book, Limits to Growth? I have that book around here somewhere, I think. Have we run out of anything?

    When we come close to running out in a few hundreds of years there will be something else to take its place.
    Are you really Bman Mcfly??? That's his shtick. Blame everything on a worldwide conspiracy dating back decades and the solution is magic. LOL!!!

    I thought conservatives were supposed to be all about personal responsibility???
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