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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    I cannot speak to why a majority do.
    Well there's your sign that your perspective is skewed too far to the right of your fellow Americans.

    Given that about half of the nation has its hands out looking for government to fill them it is no real surprise that a government promising to take more of one person's property to give to others has traction with the takers. If the percentage is 47% we can still turn this around. If it is 51% which has been reported recently on a local radio station, then we are doomed.
    You still dragging out that Fox News farce that was discredited long ago:

    "According to the Center On Budget and Policy Priorities the real reason why 47%-51% of Americans paid no federal income taxes in 2009 is,
    The 51 percent figure is an anomaly that reflects the unique circumstances of 2009, when the recession greatly swelled the number of Americans with low incomes and when temporary tax cuts created by the 2009 Recovery Act — including the “Making Work Pay” tax credit and an exclusion from tax of the first $2,400 in unemployment benefits — were in effect. Together, these developments removed millions of Americans from the federal income tax rolls. Both of these temporary tax measures have since expired."
    It's A Myth That 47% Of Americans Pay No Taxes, In Truth 86% Pay Taxes
    Buy arms and ammunition.
    LOL! For What? Is the 1% going to rise up against the 99%?
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    In other words if you don't do what we want you to we will create a powerful government bureaucracy that will slowly eat up your wealth and destroy you, the nation and (oops) us.

    You have the heart of a tyrant.
    Your ridiculous strawman has the heart of a tyrant. because that is not even close to what I said.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    The lie is that the rich do not pay their fair share.
    Rush Limbaugh would be proud of you!
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Rush Limbaugh would be proud of you!
    As he should be.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    I do not believe we are running out of oil. Every projection has been wrong. We always find more as it becomes profitable to go get it.
    I don't understand how you can say that. The projections have been correct time and time again. Look at hubbert's research, he accurately predicted the decline of oil production in the US! When you adjust Hubbert's theory for the decrease in demand during the oil embargo years, global peak production is coming up soon.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Well there's your sign that your perspective is skewed too far to the right of your fellow Americans.

    You still dragging out that Fox News farce that was discredited long ago:

    "According to the Center On Budget and Policy Priorities the real reason why 47%-51% of Americans paid no federal income taxes in 2009 is,
    The 51 percent figure is an anomaly that reflects the unique circumstances of 2009, when the recession greatly swelled the number of Americans with low incomes and when temporary tax cuts created by the 2009 Recovery Act — including the “Making Work Pay” tax credit and an exclusion from tax of the first $2,400 in unemployment benefits — were in effect. Together, these developments removed millions of Americans from the federal income tax rolls. Both of these temporary tax measures have since expired."
    It's A Myth That 47% Of Americans Pay No Taxes, In Truth 86% Pay Taxes


    LOL! For What? Is the 1% going to rise up against the 99%?
    Discredited? Hardly. Somewhere between 47 and 51% of workers are not paying federal income taxes. Many of those got money from the Feds. Your story highlights the truth of it.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post

    I don't understand how you can say that. The projections have been correct time and time again. Look at hubbert's research, he accurately predicted the decline of oil production in the US! When you adjust Hubbert's theory for the decrease in demand during the oil embargo years, global peak production is coming up soon.

    Hubbert peak theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    You may believe what you wish. The decline in oil production is more political than technical.

    Don't you wonder why all of the projected catastrophes are just around the corner?

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    Quote Originally Posted by satnightpoly View Post
    You may believe what you wish. The decline in oil production is more political than technical.

    Don't you wonder why all of the projected catastrophes are just around the corner?
    There is nothing political to it, it's simply science. You claim that science is wrong time and time again, well here is a theory that has been right time and time again, but that isn't enough?
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post

    When the storm comes, as it surely must, you can choose to be prepared or you can be washed away. I choose to be prepared.
    Back your theme of revolution by the 1% against the 99%??? LOL!
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post

    There is nothing political to it, it's simply science. You claim that science is wrong time and time again, well here is a theory that has been right time and time again, but that isn't enough?
    Can you show me, say from a book like "Limits to Growth" that essentially predicted we were running out of everything, a half dozen examples of them being right?

    Or will you only show me self-fulfilling prophecy? If you claim we are going to run out of oil then politically obstruct every effort to find and exploit the oil so that oil production plateaus does that mean you are right? I don't think so.

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