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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Outlawing lead gasoline.....inlawing bulbs filled with Mercury......we could never have done it on our own.......
    Bad example. Leaded gasoline in normal operations produces serious pollution. Clearly you've never been to China. CFLs in normal operation leak no mercury. Try again.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Bad example. Leaded gasoline in normal operations produces serious pollution. Clearly you've never been to China. CFLs in normal operation leak no mercury. Try again.
    ....as long as 300 million Americans never break one of the billion bulbs.....and as long as every one of the billion bulbs makes it safely to a recycling center.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    ....as long as 300 million Americans never break one of the billion bulbs.....and as long as every one of the billion bulbs makes it safely to a recycling center.
    Since when did breaking bulb = normal operations? Leaded gasoline emits significent pollution by design in designed operation. How does accidently breaking a bulb equate to designed operation?

    Less fail in your reply please.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Since when did breaking bulb = normal operations? Leaded gasoline emits significent pollution by design in designed operation. How does accidently breaking a bulb equate to designed operation?

    Less fail in your reply please.
    Give me a guesstimate on how many EVIL incandescent light bulbs you have broken over your lifetime?

    Now times that by 300 million.......

    Factor in the number of HOLY CFL bulbs that will no doubtedly make there way into landfills.......

    .........Houston....we have a mercury problem........
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Give me a guesstimate on how many EVIL incandescent light bulbs you have broken over your lifetime?
    Where I broke the actual glass? About two. But that was after the filament was totally shot and I crushed deliberately it to make space in the garbage.

    Now times that by 300 million.......

    Factor in the number of HOLY CFL bulbs that will no doubtedly make there way into landfills.......

    .........Houston....we have a mercury problem........
    Actually it's mercury in the air.

    You still haven't shown how operating leaded gasoline is the same as breaking CFL bulbs. I suspect you won't because your argument is crap.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Where I broke the actual glass? About two. But that was after the filament was totally shot and I crushed deliberately it to make space in the garbage.
    Well your either very young or extremely careful for a liberal...........

    But even so..... lets say 600 million mercury bulbs broken.......does it cause you concern yet?


    Actually it's mercury in the air.

    You still haven't shown how operating leaded gasoline is the same as breaking CFL bulbs. I suspect you won't because your argument is crap.
    That was your comparison and contention........
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Where are all these bulbs made?
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The House rears it's bat**** crazy head again. Who is for more efficient light bulbs? Consumers, and yes, even the light bulb manufacturers. Who is against it? Energy companies who want to charge you for using more electricity, and who have House Republicans in their back pocket. But did we ever think they didn't?

    These Republicans who want to empower the Kochs of the world cite Constitutionality of the new law. However, since the Commerce Clause gives Congress exclusive power over trade activities among the states, this law is indeed Constitutional. Not only that, but will save consumers 81 billion dollars a year, which is money that won't be going into the pockets of energy companies. No wonder Republicans hate this law.

    I predict that this bill will die in the Senate, and deservedly so.

    Article is here.
    I don't know about the energy companies part. In my area, energy companies have given out free CFL lightbulbs. I just got 4 in the mail.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnWOlin View Post
    I don't know about the energy companies part. In my area, energy companies have given out free CFL lightbulbs. I just got 4 in the mail.
    You may want to take a closer look at your electric bill........and see how "Free" those bulbs really were.......
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Where are all these bulbs made?
    CFLs are made in stinin'-ass China with plans to start mass production for the US market in US in 2012. However they do save you money in the long run, want to go better though? Get American made LEDs, most LED lights are sold in America. While at $30-50 they are pricey, they last 50,000 hours (30 years) compared to the 1000 hours a CFL last, use less than a 1/4 of the power of a CFL, and according to studies, pay for themselves after 3 years of use. Also, these bulbs aren't nearly as bad on the environment, and are much much harder to break than a CFL or regular light bulb.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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