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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    do you? the best thing they ever did to make engines last longer is go to unleaded gas....
    Rarely now. No longer racing.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    in sufficient concentrations and ingested into the body, yes. otherwise, no...mercury is not dangerous.
    That acknowledges I suppose that they are more dangerous than standard bulbs. Asbestos brakes are not dangerous either as long as you aren't beathing in the dust.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Because the unregulated market puts short term profits ahead of whats best for future generations that will depend on the environment to sustain itself.
    The government is trillions of dollars in debt, will not stop spending, and you feel they are concerned about "future generations"??? That does not compute!

    And you want the government to decide what's best for the marketplace rather than the American consumer??

    And what "unregulated market"? There are so many regulations that a start up business now is almost impossible, and only friends of the government with their crony capitalism, like Solyndra, GM, and many others, can make a go of it.

    No wonder businesses are moving out of the States with this craziness going on.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    Link?
    Canada doesn't have the same strict emissions requirements for cars as the USA, do they not care for their citizens?
    Canada is a more serious country at this point, which is why we aren't have an ongoing debate about which light bulbs the government will allow us to use.

    Right now the American government can make decisions on light bulbs, and too many Americans buy into their BS, but can't properly explore for oil or build a pipeline.

    The decline of the American people and its government is becoming self evident..

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    The government is trillions of dollars in debt, will not stop spending, and you feel they are concerned about "future generations"??? That does not compute!
    Sorry Grant, but your comment does not compute.

    This is a red herring argument meant to paint the government as incompetent. While I won't disagree with you on that point, equating government debt to light bulb regulations is ridiculous.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    How long does a candle last you now? Has technological improvements helped them to last longer than they used to?
    I don't know but candles made from vegetable oils last longer than ones made from paraffin.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    in sufficient concentrations and ingested into the body, yes. otherwise, no...mercury is not dangerous.
    When we were kids, not knowing better, we used to roll the mercury around in our hands from a broken thermometer, with no ill effects. Glad we didn't try eating it!
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    The government is trillions of dollars in debt, will not stop spending, and you feel they are concerned about "future generations"??? That does not compute!
    Obviously, it requires the ability to understand science and sustainability.


    And you want the government to decide what's best for the marketplace rather than the American consumer??
    Yes, because without government intervention, we would still have rivers that catch fire and bigger holes in the ozone layer.

    And what "unregulated market"? There are so many regulations that a start up business now is almost impossible, and only friends of the government with their crony capitalism, like Solyndra, GM, and many others, can make a go of it.
    There are no charges of wrong doing that have been proven in Solyndra, and we have bailed out car companies many times in our history.

    No wonder businesses are moving out of the States with this craziness going on.
    Business are moving out of the country because of the tax breaks we provide them to do so, and the lower wages they pay for labor.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by satnightpoly View Post
    Sorry Grant, but your comment does not compute.

    This is a red herring argument meant to paint the government as incompetent. While I won't disagree with you on that point, equating government debt to light bulb regulations is ridiculous.
    It's absolutely germane to what you are saying.

    You're suggesting that this present government cares for "future generations", your words, when they are going to be stuck with trillions of dollars in debt and unsustainable obligations.. It could be argued that this is the first American generation to sell out the future of their children, and I won't even bother raising the abortion issue.

    Light bulbs?? Could there be a less serious debate?

    What's happened to those great American people?

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It's absolutely germane to what you are saying.

    You're suggesting that this present government cares for "future generations", your words, when they are going to be stuck with trillions of dollars in debt and unsustainable obligations.. It could be argued that this is the first American generation to sell out the future of their children, and I won't even bother raising the abortion issue.

    Light bulbs?? Could there be a less serious debate?

    What's happened to those great American people?
    You'll note, the ban has been rescinded.

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