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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Freedom means the ability to act irresponsibly ... forcing people to act responsibly according to one persons view of what is or is not responsible requires fear and a totalitarian dictatorship. Finally came out of the closet huh?
    we are not enjoying freedom if acting irresponsibly means living off the govt. teat....like 2 of my siblings. Their freedom to do so is being paif for out of our taxes...
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Such is the view of all tyrants. A living Constitution is not a Constitution at all.
    gettin' deep in here, deep, dark, and full of stupid...

    The founding fathersd were enlightened, but could not know the future. THey weren't gods, you know. The Constitution is a living document, it can be changed, and has, for the better.....
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Historically, citizens have never had much luck fighting big corporations in court, that is why we created the EPA.
    So that is why you did it? That explains much. It needs to go. My vote is for 100 defunding. Fire the people. Sell the furniture and the buildings. Save America. But that is just me, I have no really strong opinions.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    mercury laden? how much mercury vapor is in a standard 100w (equivalent) CFL? You would have to break a few thousand and purposely inhale to get hurt...
    BTW, got smoke detectors in your home? read up on what is in THEM....
    Are you denyong that the government mandated bulbs have mercury in them?

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Unleaded gas is the real tyranny i tell ya!
    I admit that I am impressed with how many of you so willingly don slaves clothing and let others make all of your decisions for you. You are unfit to be free. Perhaps that is why you are the way you are.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Are you denyong that the government mandated bulbs have mercury in them?
    I will type slower just for you.....there IS mercury in them, I said that there was, I am also saying that it is a very small amount. Living down wind of a coal fired power plant will probably expose you to more mercury. Eating certain fish, likewise...
    Something else to consider, the human body is radioactive....do you sleep alone.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    gettin' deep in here, deep, dark, and full of stupid...

    The founding fathersd were enlightened, but could not know the future. THey weren't gods, you know. The Constitution is a living document, it can be changed, and has, for the better.....
    That is the view of tyrants.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I will type slower just for you.....there IS mercury in them, I said that there was, I am also saying that it is a very small amount. Living down wind of a coal fired power plant will probably expose you to more mercury. Eating certain fish, likewise...
    Something else to consider, the human body is radioactive....do you sleep alone.
    I see. So having the government mandate that I must buy things to expose me to poison is a better solution than to let me decide?

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I admit that I am impressed with how many of you so willingly don slaves clothing and let others make all of your decisions for you. You are unfit to be free. Perhaps that is why you are the way you are.
    what clothing do you wear? martyr? self appointed protector of the public for insignifcant issues?
    You said it yourself, or someone here did, we get to make our own choices. I will burn incandescents in some places, where it makes sense, and CFL in others....
    We are all free, free at last to choose our destiny, be it conserving the planet God has given us stewardship of, or wasting the resources thereof....choose ye this day what path you will take, because some of those paths are full of weirdos....extremists, those who inhabit the dark recesses of extreme conservatism, and extreme liberalism. We have plenty of people who waste energy, use it without knowing how it got to their homes, and we even have some people who use little energy for no other reason than to save money (how selfish of them).
    You have made your point, I would say get on your horsie and ride away, but you have beaten it to death, and continue to beat it.
    I think I am having a reaction to my evening meds, might have to upchuck....
    later...
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I see. So having the government mandate that I must buy things to expose me to poison is a better solution than to let me decide?
    There is no mandate, incandescents are still available, and will continue to be, they are called Halogens, incandescents on steroids, you might say. There is more poison in the binders used to make your daily vitamins....jut not enough to hurt you.....even pure water can be a poison if you drink too much of it. It's everywhere, these infintesimal amounts of stuff that in humongous concentrations can kill, be very very afraid....
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