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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    So does that mean your all for it? What does it matter if your George Bush's #1 Fan?

    Were you capable of picking out your own light bulbs prior to the Liberal Nanny State doing it for you?
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    .......were you capable of picking out your own toilet before the Liberal Nanny State starting doing that for you?
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    We were also capable of having lead in our gasoline at one time, but for the common good, the government outlawed that.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    We were also capable of having lead in our gasoline at one time, but for the common good, the government outlawed that.
    Outlawing lead gasoline.....inlawing bulbs filled with Mercury......we could never have done it on our own.......
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    These Republicans who want to empower the Kochs of the world cite Constitutionality of the new law. However, since the Commerce Clause gives Congress exclusive power over trade activities among the states, this law is indeed Constitutional.
    Wow. Totalitarianism rears its ugly head once again. So the commerce clause supersedes the rest of the Constitution? Awesome. Simply awesome.

    We have got to return to a constitutionally limited government. It may already be too late. If it is a revolution will be needed to right this wrong. Light bulbs and flush toilets. Who ever would have thought the Federal government wanted this kind of power over its citizens? But there it is. And you are a useful idiot, if I might use Lenin's phrase. You know nothing but believe you are wise. You are eager to wear the chains the government has manufactured for you, believing they make an intellectual statement about you. And in fact, they actually do.

    Count me as against the Federal Government doing anything that is not in support of an enumerated power.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Considering that the new bulbs last much longer than the old ones, and use much less electricity on top of it, consumers are actually saving money. the savings for consumers is estimated to be about 81 billion dollars.
    And the one term Marxist president's takeover of the healthcare industry is revenue neutral, will provide free medical care to an additional 38 million people and lower our costs. Uh-huh.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    And the one term Marxist president's takeover of the healthcare industry is revenue neutral, will provide free medical care to an additional 38 million people and lower our costs. Uh-huh.
    And you are a useful idiot, if I might use Lenin's phrase.

    By all means, every problem in this country can be laid at the feet of just one man. When will people begin to realize, if ever, that the problem is government as a whole and stop screeching that 'their guy' is the only one with all the answers.

    This is why I am a political agnostic. In it's current form I doubt that it will ever work properly.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    Oh really?
    In 2010 Wind power accounted for 2.3% of the electricity generated in the United States.[3] This amounted to 94,650 thousand megawatt-hours of electricity.[4]
    Very interesting. So after the Feds force it on the states and pour money into it for a couple of years it is up to 2%. I wonder how much it costs each federal taxpayer?
    Would the market chose this path given the freedom to choose?
    If we want abundant, inexpensive, locally available energy why aren't we building hundreds more nuclear power plants? They take up less space. They look great in your back yard. They take relatively few people to operate them.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    And you are a useful idiot, if I might use Lenin's phrase.

    By all means, every problem in this country can be laid at the feet of just one man. When will people begin to realize, if ever, that the problem is government as a whole and stop screeching that 'their guy' is the only one with all the answers.

    This is why I am a political agnostic. In it's current form I doubt that it will ever work properly.
    This was not about the one term Marxist president. It was about a claim of 81 billion dollars in savings. We are lied to by our federal government every day. And some of us never catch on.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If I want to dump sulfur into your yard that's what I want to do. You want to not dump sulfur into other people's yards, that's fine, but I'm going to go ahead and dump sulfur into your yard.
    At least get the analogy right - it should read: "If YOU want to dump sulfur in your yard". YOU = me and my own property in this case. YOU = YOU doing it in my yard would constitute illegal dumping and at least a misdemeanor. However, even if you got the analogy correct, your analogy still sucks. Care to try again?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Seems that President Bush was all for it too. He signed it into law.
    Don't care if it was the almighty conservative on the mount ...government needs to keep the **** out of my freedom of choice.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Don't care if it was the almighty conservative on the mount ...government needs to keep the **** out of my freedom of choice.
    At least you are consistent, which is why I respect you, even if I don't agree with you.
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