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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    Especially if you ignore the Constitution. Good point!
    Show me when the SC found the new lightbulb standards to not be constitutional? You do know who the rule of law in this country charges with Constitutional interpretation, correct?
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    what would you call a liberal republican or a conservative democrat?
    An anomaly?

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    So you admit your statement was incorrect. Thanks.

    Not at all. Let me guess, you don't believe in regulations to protect public health and the environment?
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    The passive solar house I built in 1984 that has used 60% less energy than average for each year since, I use no air-conditioning, I walk to work, and for occasional long distance travel I have used a car that gets at least 50 mpg since 2001, I organically grow most of my own food, and I use high efficiency stove, refrigeratory, hot water heater, dryer, and lightbulbs.

    Soon I will have my new solar panels hooked up which will produce 1.5 kw of power and they will pay for themselves in 7 years.

    How does that compare with how energy efficient you are???
    Sorry, but your word is not proof. Try again.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Show me when the SC found the new lightbulb standards to not be constitutional? You do know who the rule of law in this country charges with Constitutional interpretation, correct?
    All three branches are to follow the Constitution. I have checked Article I, section 8 and I find no clause of authority to set standards for lightbulbs. Maybe you could provide us with a source where anything even similar was proposed by one of the authors of the Constitution, where it is mentioned in the Federalist Papers, or in one of the ratifying conventions. The opposite can be found over and over again.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Sorry, but your word is not proof. Try again.
    I could care less whether you believe me or not.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    All three branches are to follow the Constitution. I have checked Article I, section 8 and I find no clause of authority to set standards for lightbulbs.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    All three branches are to follow the Constitution. I have checked Article I, section 8 and I find no clause of authority to set standards for lightbulbs. Maybe you could provide us with a source where anything even similar was proposed by one of the authors of the Constitution, where it is mentioned in the Federalist Papers, or in one of the ratifying conventions. The opposite can be found over and over again.
    So it is you, and not the Supreme Court, the Constitution specifies is responsible for Constitutional interpretation. That's good to know. Thanks for straightening us all out on that. LOL!
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Not at all. Let me guess, you don't believe in regulations to protect public health and the environment?
    Sorry, but you did say that we cannot **** in our back yards. You just admited that we could. Soooooooo, you have admitted that you were wrong with your first statement.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I could care less whether you believe me or not.
    So you have no proof. Got it.

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