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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Scientific facts don't seem to carry a lot of weight with the science denier crowd.
    Science is only relevant here, usually, to partisan hacks and only when it aligns with the hack's political view point. You see, science which disagrees is dismissed as "junk science", therefore it's used as a tool by tools mostly.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Which is coming from...?
    Your previous posts trying to justify irresponsible waste of energy despite the effects on our health and environment.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    And that same area is thriving today. For those not in the know, the area that caught fire (in the 1960's) is just a stones throw from the Rock and Roll HOF and new Aquarium.

    Sport fishing is thriving on Lake Erie. I couldn't beging to guess how many Perch I've ate out of the lake.
    Thanks to government regulations.................
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Thanks to government regulations.................
    People demanded the water front get cleaned up so they could use it. Many are still pissed at the corrupt local politicians pissing away millions as opposed to trying to further develop the water front.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Why would I let you suck me into a worthless debate? We each know the other's positions. You are not going to change my opinion. Nor will I change yours.
    I see.....you've got absolutely nothing to disprove the sun's measurements by scientists. Just wanted to make sure that was clear. Carry on.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    A lot of work and expense to re-create what $2.00 worth of regular bulbs once did.
    nope, incandescent floods are not that cheap....and the damn things are HOT....outside the heat isn't an issue, but indoors?
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Science is only relevant here, usually, to partisan hacks and only when it aligns with the hack's political view point. You see, science which disagrees is dismissed as "junk science", therefore it's used as a tool by tools mostly.
    What science that disagrees??? There hasn't been a scientific body of national or international standing that has held a dissenting view of AGW since 2007.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    People demanded the water front get cleaned up so they could use it. Many are still pissed at the corrupt local politicians pissing away millions as opposed to trying to further develop the water front.
    You are co-mingling two different problems, the unregulated pollution that occurs without government intervention and corporate influence of politicians. Both need to be addressed.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    What science that disagrees???
    Any... for example GW scientists.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    There hasn't been a scientific body of national or international standing that has held a dissenting view of AGW since 2007.
    National or international standing only huh? And all those without national or international standing aren't included right.... or is it they're included only if they agree with the national or international standing groups....
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Science is only relevant here, usually, to partisan hacks and only when it aligns with the hack's political view point. You see, science which disagrees is dismissed as "junk science", therefore it's used as a tool by tools mostly.
    a bloggers view on the issue won't carry as much weight as a study done by a group of scientists, usually, but then you have to look at the scientists hired by the tobacco companies to convince us that smoking doens't cause cancer..heart disease, or even bad breath....
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