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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I am not sharing anything. Liberals do that.

    Nor am I damaging the environment when I consume energy. Liberals do that too. There is no damage and there are no implications. If you believe otherwise you are free to make choices for you that are in line with your beliefs. I am fine with that.

    What you don't get to do, at least not without a fight, is to control me and enslave me.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    you know, they say there is a commie behind every tree, and shrub, and Bush.....
    And sometimes they just might be right. You can always tell by the fingerprints. Tyranny has been the general history of mankind. So liberal, socialist, Marxist, communist...statists are all about control of the people for our benefit. In the end it always devolves to tyranny.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You know they measure the sun's output right? It has been at a solar minimum for most of the warming period. So that rules that out. What else you got?
    You really think it is as simple as that? Awesome.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    we are not a democracy, we are a republic, and the courts protect the rights of the minority..
    Nah..we were intended to be a Representative Republic but that died a long time ago.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    How can you actually say we have created a clean environment. You are simply ignoring the facts for your own base ends. I'm from Cleveland, and if you haven't heard we had a river catch on fire a few times thanks to the layer of pollution on top. We live on one of the largest bodies of fresh water in the world, but we are advised to only eat our local fish a few times a month because of chemical contamination.

    As far as global warming and pollution not being connected, get real. CO2 is a pollutant as well, CFC's are pollutants. These are just terms and pollutants are anything introduced to an environment that has a negative effect.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    we are not a democracy, we are a republic, and the courts protect the rights of the minority..
    Or at least that is how the theory goes.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Our pollution is a direct factor of our wasteful energy use. So you think you have the "right" to be as wasteful as you choose with our natural resources regardless of the effects of that use on others, is that right?
    Which is coming from...?

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I thought statists were like conservatives, against change, and that conservatives don't like progressives, which you didn'tinclude in your little list...
    Let me see if I can help you out.

    Conservatives are not against change. Conservatives are for constitutionally limited government. You will have to tell me what Progressives are. I believe they are generally for unconstrained government. Please clarify if you think I have it wrong.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    not in a democracy, or a republic, but if he was a dictater, perhaps...
    If I was dictator I would be the only dictator in history to give freedom to his people and as a result rip a hole in time and space killing us all on accident.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I thought statists were like conservatives, against change, and that conservatives don't like progressives, which you didn'tinclude in your little list...
    I missed a key point. Statists...they believe that the state is important. The people are less so. They enlarge the state in any way they can. The generate 80,000 plus regulations on businesses, they add more government employees at every turn. They live to enlarge the state apparatus with its power over businesses and the people.

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