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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    The new bulbs pollute the air we breath when broken and land fills and ground water when they are worn out and thrown out.

    The new bulbs are made almost exclusively in China.

    That costs us millions in lost jobs and taxes.

    The upside is few pennies in electric bill savings and there is NO plus to this dumb-ass regulation.

    This is straight up Liberal BS.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    An easy way to increase both jobs and our long term energy sustainability.

    Subsidize the cost difference between these bulbs and the old school efficient (CFL) bulbs.

    I don't even think they even manufacture incandescent lights anymore.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    The amount of energy difference between the two isn't going ot matter to you, and if you were really worried about such you wouldn't waste time worrying about light bulbs you'd be pushing for full nuclear energy power production.
    The energy difference between half a billion incandescent bulbs and half a billion CFL/LED bulbs is enormous.

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    The new bulbs pollute the air we breath when broken and land fills and ground water when they are worn out and thrown out.

    The new bulbs are made almost exclusively in China.

    That costs us millions in lost jobs and taxes.

    The upside is few pennies in electric bill savings and there is NO plus to this dumb-ass regulation.

    This is straight up Liberal BS.
    If your electricity comes from a coal power plant, you're actually releasing more mercury by using the incandescent just due to the extra electricity you burn.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    The new bulbs pollute the air we breath when broken and land fills and ground water when they are worn out and thrown out.

    The new bulbs are made almost exclusively in China.

    That costs us millions in lost jobs and taxes.

    The upside is few pennies in electric bill savings and there is NO plus to this dumb-ass regulation.

    This is straight up Liberal BS.
    The Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007 (the “Energy Bill”), signed by President George W. Bush on December 18, 2007 is an energy policy intended to make better use of our resources and help the United States become energy independent. The law provides important benefits to consumers, industry, our country and our environment.
    Part of the law sets energy efficiency standards for light bulbs; the first phase goes into effect January 2012. This document addresses frequent questions and some common misconceptions about the law.
    http://www.energystar.gov/ia/product...L_4-11_EPA.pdf

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Translation:

    Stupid People shouldn't be allowed to decide what light bulbs to use.

    Thankfully, here in Texas, we can still go on buying and using the Incandescent Light bulb.

    Light bulbs: Texas aglow with effort to save the incandescent light bulb - latimes.com

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The House rears it's bat**** crazy head again. Who is for more efficient light bulbs? Consumers, and yes, even the light bulb manufacturers. Who is against it? Energy companies who want to charge you for using more electricity, and who have House Republicans in their back pocket. But did we ever think they didn't?
    Do you need Gubmint to pick out your lightbulbs and wipe your ass?

    .....or were you capable prior to Democrats taking it upon themselves to do it for you?

    These Republicans who want to empower the Kochs of the world cite Constitutionality of the new law. However, since the Commerce Clause gives Congress exclusive power over trade activities among the states, this law is indeed Constitutional. Not only that, but will save consumers 81 billion dollars a year, which is money that won't be going into the pockets of energy companies. No wonder Republicans hate this law.

    I predict that this bill will die in the Senate, and deservedly so.

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    And if government deemed $75 LED Green Eco Hope powered bulbs as necessary for all the liberal commoners and democrat serfs..........

    .........you would be all for it it seems.........
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The House rears it's bat**** crazy head again. Who is for more efficient light bulbs? Consumers, and yes, even the light bulb manufacturers. Who is against it? Energy companies who want to charge you for using more electricity, and who have House Republicans in their back pocket. But did we ever think they didn't?

    These Republicans who want to empower the Kochs of the world cite Constitutionality of the new law. However, since the Commerce Clause gives Congress exclusive power over trade activities among the states, this law is indeed Constitutional. Not only that, but will save consumers 81 billion dollars a year, which is money that won't be going into the pockets of energy companies. No wonder Republicans hate this law.

    I predict that this bill will die in the Senate, and deservedly so.

    Article is here.
    The regulation is dumb, because there is already a decline in incandescent sales.
    They're "fixing" something that has already been fixing itself.

    Besides, incandescent bulbs are useful precisely because of the reason they're being banned.
    People use them for inexpensive heat generating devices.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Badmutha View Post
    Do you need Gubmint to pick out your lightbulbs and wipe your ass?

    .....or were you capable prior to Democrats taking it upon themselves to do it for you?



    And if government deemed $75 LED Green Eco Hope powered bulbs as necessary for all the liberal commoners and democrat serfs..........

    .........you would be all for it it seems.........
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    Seems that President Bush was all for it too. He signed it into law.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Seems that President Bush was all for it too. He signed it into law.
    So does that mean your all for it? What does it matter if your George Bush's #1 Fan?

    Were you capable of picking out your own light bulbs prior to the Liberal Nanny State doing it for you?
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