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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Of course he is... You understand about greenhouse gasses, right?
    HE isn't doing that.

    And I'm not a believer in the importance of CO2 in the equation to create the warmth. The number is far to low and coming in far to slow for it to be that much of any importance.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Less waste by consumer = less pollution of the environment that we all depend on. Seems like a direct responsibility to me.
    Indirect relationship. The plant is the center of your concern but you are punishing the user that is most likely has no choices for services because of government involvement in the market.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    when I see an issue that is actually eroding a freedom, I will protest.
    Lightbulbs ain't it....
    I didn't spend all that time in the military defending the rights of others to trivialize over lightbulbs...there are important issues to consider...try spending time on something important for a change...
    Perhaps you did not learn anything of value from your military experiences.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    The incandescent bulbs in your link will also be banned in a few years.
    Another insight by Gill based on absolutely nothing.

    When that happens, we will be forced to buy inefficient CFL bulbs or expensive LED bulbs. My Lowes does not have the 100 watt Sylvania bulbs listed in your link. I don't believe they exist.
    This makes sense for you. You don't know about it, therefore it doesn't exist. Got it!
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    RIGHTS! Come on man. Get real. What "right" do you think you have to buy crappy lightbulbs?

    Why do you even care? The new ones are cheaper. The even have old fashioned incandescent lightbulbs that meet the standards now. The only reason left to want the old ones is if you actually WANT to destroy the environment and waste energy to prove some misguided point...
    Do you really abhor the right to decide for yourself what is best for you? Do you really want busybody bureaucrats making choices for you?

    Is your religion so dear that you willingly throw away your birthright to support it? When the Soviet Union collapsed (thank you Mr. Reagan) the Environmental movement became the new home of the reds.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    So why do you continue to waste energy by driving an automobile and heating and air-conditioning where you live? Come on Pot, stop it!
    If everyone used as little energy as I do, we would not have a CO2 problem.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    HE isn't doing that.

    And I'm not a believer in the importance of CO2 in the equation to create the warmth. The number is far to low and coming in far to slow for it to be that much of any importance.
    Like I said, you're free not to believe in science if you don't want to, but you live in a democracy. You aren't the only one with a say in it.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    I would think that there are still places in the U.S. where people have outhouses in their back yards.
    Only where they are not causing a problem for health and the environment.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Do you really abhor the right to decide for yourself what is best for you? Do you really want busybody bureaucrats making choices for you?
    What is best for you, sure. Something that just affects you, absolutely that should be your decision and your decision alone. But this is something that affects everybody. When something affects other people, then we need to resolve it together.

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Is your religion so dear that you willingly throw away your birthright to support it? When the Soviet Union collapsed (thank you Mr. Reagan) the Environmental movement became the new home of the reds.
    You're just being silly now. Comparing phasing out inefficient lightbulbs strikes you as the USSR? Come on man. Get real.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Like I said, you're free not to believe in science if you don't want to, but you live in a democracy. You aren't the only one with a say in it.
    I believe in science just fine. Where exactly do you think I'm getting my doubt from? I know the workings of Co2 and I know how much is going up and from I understand it simply not workable to be a large factor. This mindset of you people is not helpful to your cause. "You just don't believe in science if you don't agree" Sorry, but get a real argument.

    And democracy is not about equal say. Democracy is about majority rules regardless of what the minority says.
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