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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Those fluorescent bulbs are not something you can screw up on in mass production. If a faulty incandescent goes through, it fizzles. When a fluorescent bulb is defective, it can blow up. Mostly because it has electronics in there. They heat up, plus the heat coming from the light source. Those catch fire and the fire can spread.

    If it were my choice, I'd keep the incandescent lightbulbs because they don't need to warm up to give their brightest light and they last much longer than the CFLs.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Don't care if the new lightbulb blows me and makes breakfast.... if I want an incandescent lightbulb, that's what I want to use. You want to use the foo-foo new bulbs go ahead and have fun.
    And baking a chicken in your electric oven for an hour and a half uses the same amount of electricity as a regular incandescent bulb would over something like 6 months of being on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

    Lightbulbs are not the biggest draws of electricity on the grid, so why bother with them??

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    And baking a chicken in your electric oven for an hour and a half uses the same amount of electricity as a regular incandescent bulb would over something like 6 months of being on 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

    Lightbulbs are not the biggest draws of electricity on the grid, so why bother with them??
    81 billion in savings just from that. And yes, there are other things that are being done too, but 81 billion dollars, along with the resulting reduction in Middle East oil imports, is not chicken feed.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    We switched over to the new bulbs about 8 months ago. While I haven't noticed a difference in my utility bill, I haven't had to replace any bulbs over this time.

    Having said that, I think it more important for the government to worry about nuclear plants aging and safety requirements constantly being downgraded just to keep them on line.

    Wind generated power is rapidly expanding, and it leaves no waste and is very efficient. That, IMO would do far more to reduce our foreign oil dependency.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    I completely switched (interior/exterior) from incandescent to CFL and LED a number of years ago. The long-term savings more than compensates for the initial cost.

    The accrued savings on a national level is substantial. Even Iraq has passed legislation whereby the government will trade working incandescent bulbs for CFLs free of charge to any business/consumer.

    Why folks cling to their incandescent Victrola is beyond me.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    I completely switched (interior/exterior) from incandescent to CFL and LED a number of years ago. The long-term savings more than compensates for the initial cost.

    The accrued savings on a national level is substantial. Even Iraq has passed legislation whereby the government will trade working incandescent bulbs for CFLs free of charge to any business/consumer.

    Why folks cling to their incandescent Victrola is beyond me.
    Out of curiosity, do you live in Iraq? A friend of mine lives there and the last time I spoke with him they were still having rolling blackouts to conserve power.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The House rears it's bat**** crazy head again. Who is for more efficient light bulbs? Consumers, and yes, even the light bulb manufacturers. Who is against it? Energy companies who want to charge you for using more electricity, and who have House Republicans in their back pocket. But did we ever think they didn't?

    These Republicans who want to empower the Kochs of the world cite Constitutionality of the new law. However, since the Commerce Clause gives Congress exclusive power over trade activities among the states, this law is indeed Constitutional. Not only that, but will save consumers 81 billion dollars a year, which is money that won't be going into the pockets of energy companies. No wonder Republicans hate this law.

    I predict that this bill will die in the Senate, and deservedly so.

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    Stupid People shouldn't be allowed to decide what light bulbs to use.

    Thankfully, here in Texas, we can still go on buying and using the Incandescent Light bulb.
    Reporting from Washington— It doesn't have the ring of "Remember the Alamo," but a new battle cry has gone up in Texas: "Remember the incandescent bulb."

    Texas has become the first state seeking to skirt a federal law that phases out old-fashioned incandescent light bulbs in favor of more efficient lamps — a move that has emerged as a shining example of Republicans' resolve to strike down what many view as excessive federal regulation.
    Light bulbs: Texas aglow with effort to save the incandescent light bulb - latimes.com

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    A total conversion from VCRs to DVDs doesn't reduce the amount of uranium and sulfur being spit into the air I breathe.
    The amount of energy difference between the two isn't going ot matter to you, and if you were really worried about such you wouldn't waste time worrying about light bulbs you'd be pushing for full nuclear energy power production.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    We switched over to the new bulbs about 8 months ago. While I haven't noticed a difference in my utility bill, I haven't had to replace any bulbs over this time.

    Having said that, I think it more important for the government to worry about nuclear plants aging and safety requirements constantly being downgraded just to keep them on line.

    Wind generated power is rapidly expanding, and it leaves no waste and is very efficient. That, IMO would do far more to reduce our foreign oil dependency.
    Seriously, really? Wind power cannot, will not and shall not EVER have the ability provide or meet our power needs in any shape, fashion or form.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    Out of curiosity, do you live in Iraq? A friend of mine lives there and the last time I spoke with him they were still having rolling blackouts to conserve power.
    No, I don't live there. My two oldest brothers (US military) each did multiple tours in Iraq. Iraq's power grid is still substandard and cannot satisfy demand. Hence, persistent unreliability and rolling blackouts.

    Not my intent to derail so, back to the OP.

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