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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Here we go again. WHy is it so difficult for people to read what they themselves have actually wrote.

    You said: Some of us prefer to take common sense measures and gather intelligence to prevent our deaths.

    I said: Sorry, it's a measure you are going to lose.

    What exactly is so difficult to understand there?
    A tad obtuse, but I understand it. Common sense has not been overly common for quite some time.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    As I said, the tyrants banned the bulb that I prefer.
    Take it up with the Bush Administration then. Whatever floats your boat!



    Just in case you are actually serious, I will address this, but I really am struggling to believe that you actually don't understand this. Do you buy your clothes? If yes, do you buy your clothes from Goodwill Industries or a second-hand store? If not, why not. That would save you money. Do you own a car? If yes, why? It is much less expensive to ride a bicycle? If you don't ride a bicycle, why not? People purchase items they like, want, or need. Some people purchase store brand products because they want to save the dollars. Some people may like the brand names better. For example, any department store has they own brand of shirts and a purchaser may be just fine purchasing them. Another purchaser may desire that the shirts be Ralph Lauren's Polo brand shirts. Are the people all the people who purchase clothes from a clothing or dept store, own a car, purchase Lauren's Polo brand wrong and should have them banned because they are more expensive?

    Well, the same is true for lightbulbs. Some prefer the older-type bulb over the new ones. I tried the new ones and they did not provide the light that I desired.
    I find that hard to believe. You didn't even know what a halogen incandescent bulb was until I explained to you.
    Now, maybe they have improved them, but they were pieces of garbage.
    Well don't you think you should try them before making a decision?


    The Halogen incandescent bulbs were just developed to meet the new standards
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Take it up with the Bush Administration then. Whatever floats your boat!
    [QUOTE=Catawba;1059667784]No, I will take it up here. I have free speech and I object to the tyranny and tyranny-lovers, as yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I find that hard to believe. You didn't even know what a halogen incandescent bulb was until I explained to you.
    I confess that I am not a lightbulb expert. I have never pretended to be one. All I know is that I bought new bulbs that were to last many times longer than the old ones and they were crappy bulbs.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Well don't you think you should try them before making a decision?

    The Halogen incandescent bulbs were just developed to meet the new standards
    First, whether I try them or not is still not the issue. You really don't understand the concept of free enterprise and freedom, do you?

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, I will take it up here. I have free speech and I object to the tyranny and tyranny-lovers, as yourself.



    I confess that I am not a lightbulb expert. I have never pretended to be one. All I know is that I bought new bulbs that were to last many times longer than the old ones and they were crappy bulbs.
    First, whether I try them or not is still not the issue. You really don't understand the concept of free enterprise and freedom, do you?
    Sure I do. Let's go back to the horse and buggy. LOL.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Sure I do. Let's go back to the horse and buggy. LOL.
    No, a bicycle is less costly to purchase, maintain, and to fuel. And, it improves your health.
    Last edited by LesGovt; 07-20-11 at 12:50 AM.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    No, I will take it up here. I have free speech and I object to the tyranny and tyranny-lovers, as yourself.
    You found me out, I was the one in the Bush Administration to craft the the energy efficiency standards for light bulbs! LOL!



    I confess that I am not a lightbulb expert. I have never pretended to be one. All I know is that I bought new bulbs that were to last many times longer than the old ones and they were crappy bulbs.
    I suggest then you try them before griping.


    First, whether I try them or not is still not the issue. You really don't understand the concept of free enterprise and freedom, do you?
    As Deuce has already clearly pointed out, your freedom to be wasteful with your energy usage doesn't extend to polluting the air we breathe.

    Even the early American colonies had regulations that people must **** outside the fort, even though folks no longer had the "freedom" to **** within the fort.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    No, a bicycle is less costly to purchase, maintain, and to fuel. And, it improves your health.
    And it helps support our troops! I commend your bike riding!
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    Here we go again. WHy is it so difficult for people to read what they themselves have actually wrote.

    You said: Some of us prefer to take common sense measures and gather intelligence to prevent our deaths.

    I said: Sorry, it's a measure you are going to lose.

    What exactly is so difficult to understand there?
    Your statement still makes no sense. Why is it so difficult for you to explain what you mean?

    Do you mean that gathering intelligence on our enemies and potential enemies does not make sense to you?
    Do you have difficulties with intelligence gathering in general?
    Do you have difficulties with gathering intelligence where one of the enemies may be a US citizen?
    Are you any less injured, or are you any less dead because the Islamic terrorist used to have a western name and lives in the US?
    Or is this an ill-conceived, poorly thought out knee-jerk reaction?

    Here we go again. You made the statement. You get to explain it. Repeating it does not constitute explanation.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    If you are afraid them, don't use them! No one is forcing you to use CFL's. You do understand that, right?
    No one claimed they are afraid of CFL bulbs, but feel free to continue your weak attempts at Straw Man fantasies.

    I merely posted that peer reviewed papers refute Snopes. Since you put so much faith in peer review, I'm sure you will stop quoting Snopes as some kind of scientific proof.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    All I can tell you is that I used two different types of new bulbs and hated them. I preferred by old bulbs and I went back to them.



    I previously asked Catawba to provide me with the name of one person who died because of using an non-halogen lightbulb or where a power plant caused the persons death due to people using any lightbulbs. I did not receive an answer. Would you care to name that person?



    Sorry, but had liberals said what you said here, I would not be having a problem.
    Can you name one person who died from smoking? How do you know they wouldn't have developed lung cancer anyway?
    If everyone stopped using incandescents and replaced them with more efficient bulbs, there'd be a lot less coal used in this country. Pollution from coal has health risks, which would be reduced. Coal mining has deaths involved, which would be reduced. CO2 emissions would be reduced, which would slow global warming, which would reduce the resulting crop stresses. Fewer people would starve.
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