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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Nope. The standard was increased by the Bush Adninistration for higher efficiency. I provided a link above to Lowes where you can purchase the new incandescent bulbs cheaply that are 30% more efficient than the old incandescent bulbs, so they lower your power bill too. Are you opposed to a lower power bill? If you are, just send the power company a litlle extra money each month.
    Sorry, you lost me. Are the new bulbs exactly the same as the old only 30% more efficient? This does not sound correct to me. Please clarify.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Sorry, you lost me. Are the new bulbs exactly the same as the old only 30% more efficient? This does not sound correct to me. Please clarify.
    No, they are a different kind of incandescent, they are halogen incandescent that are 30% more efficient than the old incandescent type, which meets the new efficiency standards set up under the Bush Administration.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    Sorry, it's a measure you are going to lose.
    Your response made no sense.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    LOL! You don't even have a candidate that is not bat-**** crazy! Good luck on taking anything back!
    The very best part is that you don't even see it coming.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No, they are a different kind of incandescent, they are halogen incandescent that are 30% more efficient than the old incandescent type, which meets the new efficiency standards set up under the Bush Administration.
    Okay, so I was correct. The tyrants did ban the incandescent bulbs that I prefer. As for saving money, that should be my prerogative. You know it all liberals do not know what I want and you tyrants should cease doing so.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Okay, so I was correct. The tyrants did ban the incandescent bulbs that I prefer. As for saving money, that should be my prerogative. You know it all liberals do not know what I want and you tyrants should cease doing so.
    Nope, Bush only increased the efficiency standard for light bulbs. If you can make one that meets the standard, you can use it.

    Don't follow you on what you mean by saving money should be your perogative? Are you personally for or against saving money?

    You consider Bush a liberal and a tyrant do you?
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by LesGovt View Post
    Okay, so I was correct. The tyrants did ban the incandescent bulbs that I prefer. As for saving money, that should be my prerogative. You know it all liberals do not know what I want and you tyrants should cease doing so.
    Have you used a halogen bulb? They function on the same principle, they're incandescent.
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    I want you to take reasonable steps to reduce the amount of pollution you place into the air I breathe. Not all regulation is tyranny.

    Admit it: You only "prefer" incandescent bulbs because "liberals" told you that you should switch.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Nope, Bush only increased the efficiency standard for light bulbs. If you can make one that meets the standard, you can use it.
    As I said, the tyrants banned the bulb that I prefer.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Don't follow you on what you mean by saving money should be your perogative? Are you personally for or against saving money?
    Just in case you are actually serious, I will address this, but I really am struggling to believe that you actually don't understand this. Do you buy your clothes? If yes, do you buy your clothes from Goodwill Industries or a second-hand store? If not, why not? That would save you money. Do you own a car? If yes, why? It is much less expensive to ride a bicycle? If you don't ride a bicycle, why not? People purchase items they like, want, or need. Some people purchase store brand products because they want to save the dollars. Some people may like the brand names better. For example, any department store has they own brand of shirts and a purchaser may be just fine purchasing them. Another purchaser may desire that the shirts be Ralph Lauren's Polo brand shirts. Are all the people who purchase clothes from a clothing or dept store, own a car, purchase Lauren's Polo brand wrong and should have them banned because their purchaes are more expensive?

    Well, the same is true for lightbulbs. Some prefer the older-type bulb over the new ones. I tried the new ones and they did not provide the light that I desired. Now, maybe they have improved them, but they were pieces of garbage. There was no quality to them. They were the store brand while the old bulbs were the name brands. By the way, just in case you are also not familiar with Ralph Lauren's brand, his shirts last forever. The store brands begin to become threadbare after a couple of years. Sometimes it is worth the expense to get quality over cheap. Sometimes, it can be more expensive and the reason you purchase it is simply because you like it.

    Now, if you live your life differently, I have no problem with that. You should be free to ride a bicycle, purchase from a second-hand store and wear store brands. Que sera, sera! This is what freedom is about. Tyranny is denying others of something that you don't want others to have even if they disagree with you. The banning of the lightbulbs is tyrannical. The changes in the toilets of a decade or two ago is tyranny. The C.A.F.E. standards are tyrannical. The banning of certain foods is tyrannical. This used to be a free country. Today, it is far from a free country.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You consider Bush a liberal and a tyrant do you?
    Bush was both a conservative and a liberal. If you think I must support him since I am a conservative, you are sadly mistaken. I think the only people vying for the White House worse than Bush in 2000 and 2004 were Gore and Kerry. A pox on all their houses and on yours for supporting tyranny.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Have you used a halogen bulb? They function on the same principle, they're incandescent.

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    All I can tell you is that I used two different types of new bulbs and hated them. I preferred by old bulbs and I went back to them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    I want you to take reasonable steps to reduce the amount of pollution you place into the air I breathe. Not all regulation is tyranny.
    I previously asked Catawba to provide me with the name of one person who died because of using an non-halogen lightbulb or where a power plant caused the persons death due to people using any lightbulbs. I did not receive an answer. Would you care to name that person?

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Admit it: You only "prefer" incandescent bulbs because "liberals" told you that you should switch.
    Sorry, but had liberals said what you said here, I would not be having a problem.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Your response made no sense.
    Here we go again. WHy is it so difficult for people to read what they themselves have actually wrote.

    You said: Some of us prefer to take common sense measures and gather intelligence to prevent our deaths.

    I said: Sorry, it's a measure you are going to lose.

    What exactly is so difficult to understand there?

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