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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    The law doesn't ban incandescent. It just requires a level of efficiency. Which some incandescent bulb manufacturers are working on.
    As I have said in the past changing the efficiency level details changing the light bulb technology effectively banning the old and replacing it with the new. Its not a ban in the classical sense, but its ban all the same.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    The point being, people switched to the new technology all on their own.
    And my point being that when it comes to the air I breathe sometimes the free market is not enough.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    And my point being that when it comes to the air I breathe sometimes the free market is not enough.
    So changing on their own isn't good enough for you?

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    [QUOTE=1Perry;1059637587]I hope so. I'll certaintly take your word for it that some test claims this. I'll see for myself at some point. Might be awhile if these bulbs are $6.00 or more.[/quiote]

    They're estimated to be down to $10 within 18 months. And they are dimable. I think WIRED ran a web article on it the other day. It was in my Google news side bar.

    Any single bulb uses very little electricty in a year.
    True, but incandescent are exceedingly wasteful. And over time, with replacement costs, they are more expensive.

    Still, if it's a good deal, people will switch on their own.
    Most people don't think more then a month ahead. Furthermore, power companies are in on this too as it reduces the additional capacity they have to increase at the same making it easier to meet renewable percentages. In the long run, this is basically better for everyone except incandescent manufacturers and jewelers.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    The House rears it's bat**** crazy head again. Who is for more efficient light bulbs? Consumers, and yes, even the light bulb manufacturers. Who is against it? Energy companies who want to charge you for using more electricity, and who have House Republicans in their back pocket. But did we ever think they didn't?

    These Republicans who want to empower the Kochs of the world cite Constitutionality of the new law. However, since the Commerce Clause gives Congress exclusive power over trade activities among the states, this law is indeed Constitutional. Not only that, but will save consumers 81 billion dollars a year, which is money that won't be going into the pockets of energy companies. No wonder Republicans hate this law.

    I predict that this bill will die in the Senate, and deservedly so.
    If I want to pay more for a lightbulb, and pay more money for the electricity to run that lightbulb I should be able to do it. Why the **** is the government getting involved in legislation about lightbulbs? How about they legislate an upgrade to the power grid, or they legislate and discuss how to supply the country's power needs over the next 30 years instead of dictating lightbulbs. This is the stupidity of government on display - and the stupidity of those who agree with that stupidity. To Government: Let people buy what they want to buy, use what they want to use and keep your grimy hands out of people's lives.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Considering that the new bulbs last much longer than the old ones, and use much less electricity on top of it, consumers are actually saving money. the savings for consumers is estimated to be about 81 billion dollars.
    Don't care if the new lightbulb blows me and makes breakfast.... if I want an incandescent lightbulb, that's what I want to use. You want to use the foo-foo new bulbs go ahead and have fun.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    If I want to pay more for a lightbulb, and pay more money for the electricity to run that lightbulb I should be able to do it. Why the **** is the government getting involved in legislation about lightbulbs? How about they legislate an upgrade to the power grid, or they legislate and discuss how to supply the country's power needs over the next 30 years instead of dictating lightbulbs. This is the stupidity of government on display - and the stupidity of those who agree with that stupidity. To Government: Let people buy what they want to buy, use what they want to use and keep your grimy hands out of people's lives.
    Are they really telling us to do that as in commanding us or suggesting it? I use old bulbs still and I never heard anything about me having to change from one to the other. The only thing I was suggested to do was switch from analog to digital. Still, I might sound conspiratorial for saying this, but if the government is pushing exposure for these awesome light bulbs either their trying to save energy, or a few suits got a few checks from a certain light bulb manufacture to make a big deal over swirly light bulbs.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Considering that the new bulbs last much longer than the old ones, and use much less electricity on top of it, consumers are actually saving money. the savings for consumers is estimated to be about 81 billion dollars.
    How much is going to be spent disposing of the mercury filled pig tail bulbs? Far more than 81 million, I bet.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Considering that the new bulbs last much longer than the old ones, and use much less electricity on top of it, consumers are actually saving money. the savings for consumers is estimated to be about 81 billion dollars.
    So tell me …. why are you against giving people a choice ? If they save money .. and people want to buy them .. then fine .. “let” then buy them … why is it that we need to take the option away from people ??

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Let me get this straight..... if my cheap bulb burns out I throw it in the trash and buy an Obamabulb?? If that burns out I call the bio-hazard team? Hell's bells. I am ready for a good horse and some candles, but not ABOUT to offer that up to the globalists. $ stores still sell EVIL lightbulbs 4 for a buck... made in China.. go figure.
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