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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Ill use whatever light bulbs I want. Whats next, I have to buy a green car?
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by DontDoIt View Post
    Ill use whatever light bulbs I want. Whats next, I have to buy a green car?
    Yes, that is next. And you will be told what mattresses to sleep on, what to eat for breakfast, what you can drink and when you can drink it, how your vegetables are raised, what you can plant in your front yard, what you can read, watch and think. In fact much of this has happened already so governments telling you what light bulbs you can or cannot use in your home is just another notch in their ever-growing belt. And, as you can read on this thread, many people like the idea.

    It apparently doesn't take very long to make sheep out of a previously free people.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by DontDoIt View Post
    Ill use whatever light bulbs I want. Whats next, I have to buy a green car?
    I hope so. If the car you're driving still pollutes our land and air and we have an alternative that's faster, uses only green fuels, stronger, safer and better in every way possible, I certainly hope the government bans the old ones.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Its not good enough. If we want to reduce pollution, everybody must invest in it, not just the people who want to.
    If it does what it says, everyone will. You do realize that by getting on your computer than you are adding to the pollution right? (and I do mean literally)
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    I don't really understand what is wrong with energy efficiency standards. They started under the Reagan administration, conservatives. Stop whining about this crap.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayyam Communique View Post
    I don't really understand what is wrong with energy efficiency standards. They started under the Reagan administration, conservatives. Stop whining about this crap.
    You really don't have an inquiring mind, do you Khayembii Communique, and how this sort of power might be abused.

    The government tells you which light bulbs to buy and you buy them, trusting that they are making the air that you breath cleaner, securing what's left of the o-zone layer, the seas from rising and 'saving the planet' and generally preventing a global catastrophe in doing so. You trust that no business leaders such as Jeffrey Immelt of General Electric, Al Gore inc. or any self interested politicians had a hand in any of this. Trust can be such a wondrous thing.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    I hope so. If the car you're driving still pollutes our land and air and we have an alternative that's faster, uses only green fuels, stronger, safer and better in every way possible, I certainly hope the government bans the old ones.
    I certainly Hope you do the world a favor........your a pathetic excuse for an American.......
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I don't really understand what is wrong with energy efficiency standards. They started under the Reagan administration, conservatives. Stop whining about this crap.
    So your saying you were too stupid to pick out your own light bulbs and you need government to do it for you.........
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    You arguement is moot.. How many fluorescent lamps are used in the work place?? How many have been used in the last 40 years?? Get a clue dude.. The amount used in the little single socket bulb is tiny compared to a standard office size lamp.. Which we have been using for decades..

    So.. Your arguement is simply meaningless.. Seriously.. Get a clue.. At least think through your arguements..
    30 years ago my crew went through a 750,000 office building and replaced every fluorescent bulb in it to Energy Savers. Yes, they worked. I know they haven't stopped improving them since then. We also set up a 3 year replacement program, to keep older tubes from using too much energy.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    30 years ago my crew went through a 750,000 office building and replaced every fluorescent bulb in it to Energy Savers. Yes, they worked. I know they haven't stopped improving them since then. We also set up a 3 year replacement program, to keep older tubes from using too much energy.
    It was under government orders right? Because there is no way anyone would have done this on their own.

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