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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    Oh and they aren't dumping those old bulbs in the garbage now?? Get real dude!! You arguement is about something that happens anyways?? At least with everyone switching to the new bulbs it will end.. That is what you meant to say right??
    The old bulbs are not full of mercury.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    What percentage of people do you think really do that? Out of the people that I know that use them and have had to replace them, not one has recycled it.
    Which is an arguement to move to the new much safer bulbs isn't it.. Nice job.. You conservatives are arguing against your own position.. Way to go..

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    The old bulbs are not full of mercury.
    Neither are the new LED ones, but tell him that..

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    So in the end we have many options. (or should have). Consumers are much better at picking the best option than the government is. Even if LED's do not have Mercury, bulbs the government has picked as a winner do have Mercury in them.

    Provide a cheap, safer, well performing bulb and people will buy them all on their own. Make them expensive, not so well performing and government forced and it's going to be a mess.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    You know.. I really don't understand the issue here.. How many of you conservatives have a flat panel monitor on your computer or a flat panel televison to watch Nascar on?? What is the difference?? I don't hear you all bitching about that?? I don't hear any of you complaining about any new technology?? Who here has an I-Pod?? Or an I-Phone?? Are you going to get your panties in a bunch when they upgrade and force you to by a new one??

    OMG!! The light bulb finally got an upgrade!! It is safer, uses less electricity, burns cooler, lasts longer, and comes in an assorted shapes and sizes.. What are you people complaining about.. What is wrong with saving electricity?? What is wrong with saving your self money??

    For those of you that haven't been to the store in like 5 years.. They have the new LED ones that look just like regular light bulbs for lamp shades and stuff.. This technology has been around for over a decade.. I switched years ago..

    There is nothing wrong with this law.. There is nothing wrong with helping people along to save themselves some money.. Not to mention help decrease load on our power grid that republicans don't want to spend the money upgrading and repairing.. Pretty soon you won't have a choice.. Some stores already don't even carry the older incendecent bulbs.. Kinda like VCR and DVD.. Did we really have a choice?? I don't see to many VCR's on the market right now do you?? Same with televisions and computer components.. We either stay ahead of the technology curve or get left behind..

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    So in the end we have many options. (or should have). Consumers are much better at picking the best option than the government is. Even if LED's do not have Mercury, bulbs the government has picked as a winner do have Mercury in them. .
    You arguement is moot.. How many fluorescent lamps are used in the work place?? How many have been used in the last 40 years?? Get a clue dude.. The amount used in the little single socket bulb is tiny compared to a standard office size lamp.. Which we have been using for decades..

    So.. Your arguement is simply meaningless.. Seriously.. Get a clue.. At least think through your arguements..

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    You know.. I really don't understand the issue here.. How many of you conservatives have a flat panel monitor on your computer or a flat panel televison to watch Nascar on?? What is the difference?? I don't hear you all bitching about that?? I don't hear any of you complaining about any new technology?? Who here has an I-Pod?? Or an I-Phone?? Are you going to get your panties in a bunch when they upgrade and force you to by a new one??
    The reason you don't understand is because you are evading the point and actually making the point for others. Who bought flat panel monitors when they first came out? A few people who always have to have the next new thing before anyone else. Now that they have been out awhile and prices have come down and the advantages can be clearly seen, many more are buying them.

    The government did not have to make regular monitors illegal to get this to happen. All new technology happens this way. Before long hardly anyone will have a landline phone in their home. It's not because the government made them illegal.

    If these new bulbs are truely better, people will choose them all on their own. The government forcing people to buy them will only keep the costs higher.

    OMG!! The light bulb finally got an upgrade!! It is safer, uses less electricity, burns cooler, lasts longer, and comes in an assorted shapes and sizes.. What are you people complaining about.. What is wrong with saving electricity?? What is wrong with saving your self money??
    As has been pointed out here, there is no clear indication at their current costs that they are saving everyone money.

    For those of you that haven't been to the store in like 5 years.. They have the new LED ones that look just like regular light bulbs for lamp shades and stuff.. This technology has been around for over a decade.. I switched years ago..
    But that type of lighting does not meet everyones need.

    There is nothing wrong with this law.. There is nothing wrong with helping people along to save themselves some money.. Not to mention help decrease load on our power grid that republicans don't want to spend the money upgrading and repairing.. Pretty soon you won't have a choice.. Some stores already don't even carry the older incendecent bulbs.. Kinda like VCR and DVD.. Did we really have a choice?? I don't see to many VCR's on the market right now do you?? Same with televisions and computer components.. We either stay ahead of the technology curve or get left behind..
    Yes we had a choice and we freely made it on our own.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    You know.. I really don't understand the issue here.. How many of you conservatives have a flat panel monitor on your computer or a flat panel televison to watch Nascar on?? What is the difference?? I don't hear you all bitching about that?? I don't hear any of you complaining about any new technology?? Who here has an I-Pod?? Or an I-Phone?? Are you going to get your panties in a bunch when they upgrade and force you to by a new one??

    OMG!! The light bulb finally got an upgrade!! It is safer, uses less electricity, burns cooler, lasts longer, and comes in an assorted shapes and sizes.. What are you people complaining about.. What is wrong with saving electricity?? What is wrong with saving your self money??

    For those of you that haven't been to the store in like 5 years.. They have the new LED ones that look just like regular light bulbs for lamp shades and stuff.. This technology has been around for over a decade.. I switched years ago..

    There is nothing wrong with this law.. There is nothing wrong with helping people along to save themselves some money.. Not to mention help decrease load on our power grid that republicans don't want to spend the money upgrading and repairing.. Pretty soon you won't have a choice.. Some stores already don't even carry the older incendecent bulbs.. Kinda like VCR and DVD.. Did we really have a choice?? I don't see to many VCR's on the market right now do you?? Same with televisions and computer components.. We either stay ahead of the technology curve or get left behind..
    Is the government forcing everyone to get a new iPad or iPhone??? Did the government force anyone to buy a DVD player instead of a VCR player??

    I love LED bulbs, but they are outrageously expensive right now. Will they come down in price?? Of course they will. But for now, you'll have a hard time convincing a single mother of three that makes $8/hour that she has to buy a $20 LED bulb instead of a .49 cent incandescent.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    You arguement is moot.. How many fluorescent lamps are used in the work place?? How many have been used in the last 40 years?? Get a clue dude.. The amount used in the little single socket bulb is tiny compared to a standard office size lamp.. Which we have been using for decades..

    So.. Your arguement is simply meaningless.. Seriously.. Get a clue.. At least think through your arguements..
    I have no clue what you were railing about. WHat in the world flourescent lights used in industrial situations have to do with lights used in my home has missed me.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    So changing on their own isn't good enough for you?
    Its not good enough. If we want to reduce pollution, everybody must invest in it, not just the people who want to.
    You can never be safe from a government that can keep you completely safe from each other and the world. You must choose.

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