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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Watch out badmutha, whenever someone disagrees with oC, they HAVE to be lying.
    Still upset you can't win an argument against anyone without having to resort to blatant lying?

    And thing is Mr. V, I actually prove my accusations of lies.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    Very good point, things get momentaryily derailed sometimes, when people get personal. Guess we should watch that.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    And my point being that when it comes to the air I breathe sometimes the free market is not enough.
    So old technology light bulbs were making it difficult for you to breath and you feel the government should tell people what kind of new light bulbs they should use in their homes.

    I agree. It's for everyone's good, and maybe we can save the planet.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    You know, this "I Hate OC" fan club is getting old. Grow up.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    A recent peer reviewed scientific paper claims that broken CFL bulbs can release toxic mercury vapor over time that exceeds recommended levels. Would you want this to happen around your children?

    New Rochelle, NY, July, 6, 2011—Once broken, a compact fluorescent light bulb continuously releases mercury vapor into the air for weeks to months, and the total amount can exceed safe human exposure levels in a poorly ventilated room, according to study results reported in Environmental Engineering Science, a peer-reviewed online only journal published monthly by Mary Ann Liebert, Inc. (Mary Ann Liebert, Inc.). The article is available free online at Environmental Engineering Science

    The amount of liquid mercury (Hg) that leaches from a broken compact fluorescent lamp (CFL) is lower than the level allowed by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), so CFLs are not considered hazardous waste. However, Yadong Li and Li Jin, Jackson State University (Jackson, MS) report that the total amount of Hg vapor released from a broken CFL over time can be higher than the amount considered safe for human exposure.

    They document their findings in the article “Environmental Release of Mercury from Broken Compact Fluorescent Lamps.”
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    I replaced the incandescent bulbs in my living room with LED bulbs. I like them, my wife hates them. She says they are too dim to read anything by, and she is right. I like LED bulbs, but they are too expensive right now.

    I hate CFL bulbs. They are slow to become fully luminated. They are totally unsuitable for any outdoor application or anywhere else where it is cold. Few people will actually recycle them and most will be thrown into the trash where they will be broken. I find it funny that many liberals rail against coal fired electrical generation because of mercury, yet gladly bring in mercury filled CFL bulbs into their house where their family can be exposed.

    Note to OC: CFL bulbs don't have filaments.

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    A recent peer reviewed scientific paper claims that broken CFL bulbs can release toxic mercury vapor over time that exceeds recommended levels. Would you want this to happen around your children?
    Did anyone argue otherwise or are you in search of someone you can actually win an argument against via fabricating arguments no one ever made?

    Note to OC: CFL bulbs don't have filaments.
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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Did anyone argue otherwise or are you in search of someone you can actually win an argument against via fabricating arguments no one ever made?
    Really??? Did someone else post a quote from a recently published peer reviewed scientific study verifying that broken CFL bulbs emit mercury beyond recommended levels ?????

    Please point it out. I must have missed it.

    Did I say they did?
    Yes, as a matter of fact you did...........

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child
    Where I broke the actual glass? About two. But that was after the filament was totally shot and I crushed deliberately it to make space in the garbage.
    Oh look, another member of my hate club
    Disagreement does not equal "hate".

    Do you exhibit this persecution complex in your real life like you do here on DP???

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    Re: Energy Secretary Steven Chu defends light bulb standards as GOP seeks repeal

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    But, what happens when millions of these bulbs are dumped into the environment?
    Oh and they aren't dumping those old bulbs in the garbage now?? Get real dude!! You arguement is about something that happens anyways?? At least with everyone switching to the new bulbs it will end.. That is what you meant to say right??

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