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    Re: Casey Anthony Verdict, jurors safety?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Toast View Post
    Speaking of facts, here is an interesting one...The duck tape was actually proven to have been put on after the body had decomposed.

    Isn't that interesting......
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    Re: Casey Anthony Verdict, jurors safety?

    Quote Originally Posted by MC.no.spin View Post
    I have. There is forensic expert testimony that the way the skull was found indicates the duct tape was over the mouth.

    The diary said this:



    Why make an accident look like a murder? An accident would cause someone to act how she did after the death? That is not reasonable.
    One forensic expert testified that the duct tape was over the mouth and nose. Three others testified that you cannot confirm that. The diary still doesn't indicate that Casey caused the death of her child (I had read it before, you didn't need to repost it). Also, because I am not a psychologist or psychiatrist, I will not pretend to understand the entire spectrum of possible behaviors relating to the realization of the death of a loved one. "Reasonable" is rarely a word you'll find in the psych community, though.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Verdict, jurors safety?

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    There are always stronger personalities on the jury the influence the weaker personalities......You had a mother with a 7 month old child on the jury that hadnt seen her child in 31 days..if she gave a guilty verdict it could have been another two weeks of sequestered, she should have NEVER been on that jury. You had another jurist that told the judge on day one she was picked that she had the cruise of her lifetime scheduled for the beginning of july, the judge told oh dont worry we will be long done by then....the day of the verdict she had two days till her cruise left. She wanted OUT.
    Tesseque has taken all of baez's talking points and put them here and she is avoiding all the contrary evidence....GEORGE did not kill cahley...if he did it would be well known. He was a homicide detective, why in gods name would he cover up an ACCIDENT and not call 911 the simple truth is he would not unless he knew his daughter killed her intentionally and he was trying to save her....Which I do not believe happened. If you listened to the tapes, the Interviewing Police Officer time and time again gave her the opportunity to say it was an accidental drowning....thats where SHE got that idea to begin with.
    Casey killed Cahley. She has to this day not told the truth on where her daughter was the last day she saw her. Casey is a sociopath and pathelogical liar and I dont believe her parents are any where near as bad as baez painted them to be. Get this right people Criminal Defense lawyers are liars...professional trained liars with a license to lie
    I have only repeated evidence provided in court and have never quoted Baez, first of all. Secondly, I have not spoken in absolutes, as you've done here. I have never endorsed nor refuted Casey's guilt because I simply don't know if she is. Anybody who says they do is responding from an emotional, "gut instinct" type place. Using the evidence (and only the evidence), the prosecution failed to provide evidence that could not be refuted. When it WAS refuted, it created reasonable doubt. That is why Casey was acquitted. Not because she's actually innocent and not because of Baez talking points, but because the prosecution was not able to provide irrefutable evidence.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Verdict, jurors safety?

    Hey, I know. Bring her over my apartment and we can all have a REAL trial there. Time to get this thing right. (rolls eyes)

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    Re: Casey Anthony Verdict, jurors safety?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    One forensic expert testified that the duct tape was over the mouth and nose. Three others testified that you cannot confirm that. The diary still doesn't indicate that Casey caused the death of her child (I had read it before, you didn't need to repost it). Also, because I am not a psychologist or psychiatrist, I will not pretend to understand the entire spectrum of possible behaviors relating to the realization of the death of a loved one. "Reasonable" is rarely a word you'll find in the psych community, though.
    Where this case failed is on this point. There was no education of the jury into the mind of Casey. The sociopath experts should have been marched in. The traits could have been highlighted, as the lack of empathy Casey showed towards others was very evident. I don't feel the prosecution wanted mental health to be part of the case, for fear of an acquittal based on insanity.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Verdict, jurors safety?

    Quote Originally Posted by MC.no.spin View Post
    Not true. Link?
    Yes sir! Casey Anthony star witness: Duct tape put on Caylee after death | wtsp.com
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    Re: Casey Anthony Verdict, jurors safety?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Toast View Post
    ^So the smell of a decomposing body in her car and 87 searches on chloroform doesn't make you wonder?

    Yes, it makes one wonder, but doesn't necessarily spell out murder. Her lawyer threw out a scenario (accidental drowning) and it was plausible, making it even harder to prove that it was murder. Casey got lucky that things worked out the way they did, if she did indeed murder her daughter - but she might not be so lucky in the future, and she's going to be very much watched!



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    Re: Casey Anthony Verdict, jurors safety?

    It wasn't proof, it was a theory by a well paid Spitz that was shot down in cross examination.

    Spitz said that it was his opinion that the duct tape was placed after the face had decomposed. Ashton then asked how the person put the duct tape on the decomposed skull. He said the person took duct tape and cut it into sections to keep the mandible intact. Ashton asked if the person picked the skull off the ground to put the tape on it. Spitz said he couldn't answer.

    Then, Spitz said maybe. Ashton went on to say that if the person picked up the skull, the mandible would have fallen off. The person would have to pick up the skull and mandible and put it back in its anatomical position and then tape it.

    Then, Spitz argued that the tape was put only on one side. Ashton then made it a hypothetical that if the person wanted the mandible back in place, why would it take three pieces of duct tape!

    Okay, I have fallen down the Rabbit Hole.

    Then Ashton asked why there was not glue residue on the skull? Spitz said that bone is solid and dense... then I got confused again.

    Ashton then indicated that the duct tape was not stuck to the bone. Spitz said that the water would remove some of the glue.

    Spitz then said that the person could have taken the head someplace, put the tape on, and brought it back. Ashton then pointed out that what happened to the hair that was stuck to the tape?

    This examination got to go very far beyond the absurd.

    Spitz said that somebody at the ME's office might have put the hair over the skull for the picture.

    When Ashton showed him a picture of the skull at the site, he said that somebody did it in that picture as well.

    He was saying somebody rearranged the hair !
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    Re: Casey Anthony Verdict, jurors safety?

    Quote Originally Posted by MC.no.spin View Post
    Where this case failed is on this point. There was no education of the jury into the mind of Casey. The sociopath experts should have been marched in. The traits could have been highlighted, as the lack of empathy Casey showed towards others was very evident. I don't feel the prosecution wanted mental health to be part of the case, for fear of an acquittal based on insanity.
    Everyone deals with despair, heartbreak etc etc different. You base your opinion on, from what you saw in the news, a lack of empathy. Yet you have no idea what the woman experianced off the screen. Whether behind bars or after they found the body, or if what they say is true after they found the body in the pool. None of those times did you see. Also there are some people that just can't show emotion like others can. I've been to more funerals than I care to count. I've only cried at one of them...and even then I tried to hold it back until I was alone in my car.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Verdict, jurors safety?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    Everyone deals with despair, heartbreak etc etc different. You base your opinion on, from what you saw in the news, a lack of empathy. Yet you have no idea what the woman experianced off the screen. Whether behind bars or after they found the body, or if what they say is true after they found the body in the pool. None of those times did you see. Also there are some people that just can't show emotion like others can. I've been to more funerals than I care to count. I've only cried at one of them...and even then I tried to hold it back until I was alone in my car.
    Despair? She was saying she is happier than ever, told no one for a month, hid the body, said she was kidnapped, framed others, etc. People who think she is innocent need help right along with her ass. Learn to smell bs it will save you later.
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