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    Re: Oak Park Woman Faces 93-Days in Jail For Planting Vegetable Garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Oh god it's like an HOA on steroids.
    Thats another question...

    Why do we allow HOAs to tell us what we can and cannot do with our own property?
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    Re: Oak Park Woman Faces 93-Days in Jail For Planting Vegetable Garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Thats another question...

    Why do we allow HOAs to tell us what we can and cannot do with our own property?
    Contract. You have to sign it to buy the house. The HOA's purpose is to maintain housing values. Can't have some shady neighbor leaving a crappy, unkempt yard and dropping the value of your suburban McMansion, right?
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    Re: Oak Park Woman Faces 93-Days in Jail For Planting Vegetable Garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Contract. You have to sign it to buy the house. The HOA's purpose is to maintain housing values. Can't have some shady neighbor leaving a crappy, unkempt yard and dropping the value of your suburban McMansion, right?
    Studies done recently have shown the HOAs haven't maintained housing values.
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    Re: Oak Park Woman Faces 93-Days in Jail For Planting Vegetable Garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Studies done recently have shown the HOAs haven't maintained housing values.
    The only way to fight this kind of stupidity is to unfortunately waste your time, money and effort and a very uncertain outcome. I'm sure there will be lots of public support - hell, 70 years ago this country was urging all of it's citizens to plant "victory gardens" - those were tough times and while there's no World War going on, these are tough times too. Here's to hoping this city sees the light.
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    Re: Oak Park Woman Faces 93-Days in Jail For Planting Vegetable Garden

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    This is nuts.


    Julie Bass of Oak Park Faces Misdemeanor Charge for Vegetable Garden

    OAK PARK, Mich. (WJBK) - "The price of organic food is kind of through the roof," said Julie Bass.

    So, why not grow your own? However, Bass' garden is a little unique because it's in her front yard.

    "We thought it'd be really cool to do it so the neighbors could see. The kids love it. The kids from the neighborhood all come and help," she said.

    Bass' cool garden has landed her in hot water with the City of Oak Park. Code enforcement gave her a warning, then a ticket and now she's been charged with a misdemeanor.

    "I think it's sad that the City of Oak Park that's already strapped for cash is paying a lot of money to have a prosecutor bothering us," Bass told FOX 2's Alexis Wiley.

    "That's not what we want to see in a front yard," said Oak Park City Planner Kevin Rulkowski.

    Why? The city is pointing to a code that says a front yard has to have suitable, live, plant material. The big question is what's "suitable?"
    Good... can't have people growing stuff... she could have tried to grow a marijuana plant in that garden, so better throw her in jail just to make sure.

    And hey, if this woman grows a garden it might start a trend of people becoming more self-sufficient, and that would harm big chain grocers profits... and with some clever word play, I'm sure a lawyer could use NAFTA clauses to have these corporations for enacting laws (or failing to enact laws) that hurt corporate profits...

    What's next if we allow this to continue??

    EDIT : Just in case it wasn't clear enough, this was sarcasm.

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    Re: Oak Park Woman Faces 93-Days in Jail For Planting Vegetable Garden

    What the...
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    Re: Oak Park Woman Faces 93-Days in Jail For Planting Vegetable Garden

    Which is why my wife and I live in the country, when we finally do buy a home, it won't be in suburbia, it will be a 1-3 acre plot of land outside city limits and not subject to an HOA.
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    Re: Oak Park Woman Faces 93-Days in Jail For Planting Vegetable Garden

    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    Thats another question...

    Why do we allow HOAs to tell us what we can and cannot do with our own property?
    when you buy the property subject to a HOA you acknowledge that there are provisions governed by the HOA and by your signature transferring the real property to your name you express your agreement to abide by them
    it is voluntary on the part of the buyers/owners

    no different than an established covenant
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    Re: Oak Park Woman Faces 93-Days in Jail For Planting Vegetable Garden

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    when you buy the property subject to a HOA you acknowledge that there are provisions governed by the HOA and by your signature transferring the real property to your name you express your agreement to abide by them
    it is voluntary on the part of the buyers/owners

    no different than an established covenant
    HOA's are evil, I refuse to be subjected to their tyranny.
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    Re: Oak Park Woman Faces 93-Days in Jail For Planting Vegetable Garden

    This would be one reason why I do not, and do not ever plan to, live inside the city limits of any town.

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