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Unemployment Rate Rises to 9.2 Percent in June as Hiring Stalls

Wonder why no liberal can explain why BLS doesn't show that information and instead shows a net job loss with more unemployment 2 1/2 after taking office, 2 years after the end of a recession than it was when he took office? Interesting that liberals ignore actual numbers and still spin the Obama rhetoric.

Who is arguing that there is not a net job loss over the last 2 and a half years? The graph shows that. It just also shows huge job losses prior to January 2009 as well.
 
Yes but that is what happens when you have a two party system where one party only knows how to say NO! and refuses to acknowledge their major role in creating the economic crisis in the first place. At least Obama stopped the bleeding of jobs of 500+k a month that Bush left him with... he has been gaining jobs for a long time now and this is despite the obstructionist GOP...

But then again there must have been a lot of high fives in the GOP when those numbers came out...

White House advisors are becoming aware that the public is becoming skeptical of the continued attempts to blame George Bush for the economy so their new economic plan involves attaching blame to Richard Nixon, the Vietnam War and Watergate. Their tentative motto is 'Everything Old Is New Again".
 
Who is arguing that there is not a net job loss over the last 2 and a half years? The graph shows that. It just also shows huge job losses prior to January 2009 as well.

The fact is there hasn't been a net private sector job gain and that is the point. Obama touts private sector employment and ignores the jobs he has lost
 
The Federal Reserve is charged with the resonsibility to both monitor, prevent, and repair that. We keep hammering on presidents and business owners and corporate jets. I don't get it either.

As we have seen, the Federal Reserve can not do this. So we can blame D.C. for passing the buck but that aside, we were told that the billions we were going to spend was going to take care of the problem.
 
The fact is there hasn't been a net private sector job gain and that is the point. Obama touts private sector employment and ignores the jobs he has lost

Which is exactly what I said. There has not been a net private sector job gain since Obama took office. There was not a net private sector gain for the entire 8 years Bush was in office because the job losses in 2008 wiped out all the job gains while he was in office. The last president to have net private sector job gains when he left office was Clinton at 22 million new jobs.

Which is my point, both the hard core Republicans and they the hard core Democrats are trying to polish a turd here. The Republicans want everyone to ignore the fact that their guy sucked worse than Carter did with the economy, and the Democrats don't seem to want to recognize that at this point, it is Obama's economy.
 
As we have seen, the Federal Reserve can not do this. So we can blame D.C. for passing the buck but that aside, we were told that the billions we were going to spend was going to take care of the problem.
I don't mind so much that they keep failing at it. More so that it's not front and center in the national spotlight.

It's like when you tasks someone with a job at work, and they don't do it/fail at it. This in itself is not a big deal, because if they COMMUNICATE with you why they are failing, and you put your heads together you can either remedy it, or agree to take it from them and have someone else do it, do it yourself, etc. <- that's routine business.

The absolute WORST thing to occur is if no communication occurs, and it's just fails, and nothing happens. <- that's how business fails..or the economy.
 
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I don't mind so much that they keep failing at it. More so that it's not front and center in the national spotlight.

LOL, yes, I suppose I agree with that.

It's like when you tasks someone with a job at work, and they don't do it/fail at it. This in itself is not a big deal, because if they COMMUNICATE with you why they are failing, and you put your heads together you can either remedy it, or agree to take it from them and have someone else do it, do it yourself, etc. <- that's routine business.

We've seen Bernanke's statements of late saying that he had no idea why he was failing.

The absolute WORST thing to occur is if no communication occurs, and it's just fails, and nothing happens. <- that's how business fails..or the economy.

So far nothing is happening.
 
Which is my point, both the hard core Republicans and they the hard core Democrats are trying to polish a turd here.

cuomo isn't

he's LEADING

he's LEADING one of our biggest and most important states UP and OUT

he will be very successful, he's found the answer

new yorkers see it

good for them
 
It just can't keep going like this. Obama's going to end up getting slammed in 2012 if this doesn't fix itself soon. Whether or not it's his puppy, it will ultimately be him, and the democratic party, that are slammed over this news. Why? Because they are in charge and have been since the beginning of this economic turndown.

Unemployment Rate Rises to 9.2 Percent in June as Hiring Stalls - FoxNews.com

But...but...but...we're in a recovery! Unemployment numbers are a lagging indicator!
 
Yes but that is what happens when you have a two party system where one party only knows how to say NO! and refuses to acknowledge their major role in creating the economic crisis in the first place. At least Obama stopped the bleeding of jobs of 500+k a month that Bush left him with... he has been gaining jobs for a long time now and this is despite the obstructionist GOP...

But then again there must have been a lot of high fives in the GOP when those numbers came out...

Ok. So, how has the GOP inhibited job creation?

Obviously, you think it's the fault of the Republicans. Go ahead and tell us what they did to cause such high unemployment.

Musta been the drilling ban that did it. Oh...wait...!
 
You know this is getting really irritating. Where have we come to as a country when we take pleasure in bad unemployment numbers because it makes the other side look bad? Where have we come to when it is a "good" thing to not compromise to get things done. Both parties are treating american citizens as monopoly board game pieces just to prove a political point.

You know what I don't blame Washington, I blame us. This partisan crap has to end or this country will fail. Republicans...everyone does not share your values. Democrats...Everyone does not share your values. We have to co-exist if we are to remain a great country. How patriotic are you if we are hoping for the president demise in order to put your candidate in the white house no matter what the cost is? Hell even Reagan compromise with the democrats.

And by the way, both parties share responsibility for these numbers. Please name one job bill or ideal that the republicans have place on the table that would put Americans to work right now. All I seen is jobs being loss due to spending cuts . Just look at all the public job being loss. Boehner himself said that if jobs are lost due to spending cuts then so be it.

I bet you weren't saying that when the fabricated recession got Obama elected.
 
I really thought a 143 Day Senator, who never ran so much as a lemonade stand much less a candy store, would have had this economy back on track by now............but at that time I was also thinking how wonderful my fifth margarita was tasting.

Obama supporters......what went wrong?
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Don't you know? It's all Bush's fault. No wait, it's Europe's fault. No wait, it's the oil companies' faults. No, wait, it the tsunami's fault!:lamo
 
Want to see a picture of Obama in 2012? Here ya go!

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Here is the tax revenue increase that I would support

Put 24 million unemployed Americans back to work in the private sector paying taxes. Collect some tax revenue from the 56 million income earning Americans that are paying zero in Federal Income Taxes. That is 80 million new taxpayers vs. the 1.4 million that the liberals want to tax more(the rich)

U-6 Unemployment=153 million civilian labor force X 16.2%
Income earners not paying any Federal Income Taxes=47% X 140 million jobs currently in this country

Look … I don't want to get into this too deeply with you … but please .. lets be realistic about some things … . right now we have a 1.5 trillion dollar deficit … we can all agree on that .. right ? We can also all agree that we have a debt of someplace around 14 trillion dollars … right ?

Now please just for a moment .. forget pointing fingers .. just look at the numbers … do you realistically think it's possible to cut 1.5 trillion dollars from our spending in a single swoop ??? IMO that was what was done with the health care bill, and most can agree how that turned out .. We need to cut spending .. you and I agree fully on that .. but at the same time we need to take the time to get first the waste, then revise and fix the programs that are broken. Cut but cut as “wisely” as we can … and real.. honest cuts .. not just paper shuffling.

As I said when that is done and shown that the people (on both sides ) are serious about cutting .. then and only then will I be in favor of tax increases … across the board … like letting ALL the Bush tax cuts expire .. for every one ..

Now again .. in all fairness .. Business and people did quite well after the tax increase while Clinton was in office .. Bush cut the tax in an effort to jump start the economy after the dot com bubble broke, and for all practical purposes it did what it was intended to do .. But today we are in a completely different situation, the recession is much bigger, our debt is just plain crazy... Forget who's fault it is …. and realize where we are .. does it matter who is at fault in reality … because no matter who is at fault .. this is where we are … and we need to be fixing the problem.

Now one last point . The 14 trillion dollar debt … if we get to a balanced budget … that does nothing to reduce our debt …the interest on that debt is killing, even if we were to get to a 500 billion dollar surplus we are looking at 30 years to pay it off .. thats 2042 if we get to that surplus next year.

We need everything … we need jobs to help us, we need reduced spending to help us .. and IMO we need a very moderate tax increase right across the board to help us … then if were are lucky by the grace of God we might have a chance to pull out of this tail spin we are in.
 
It just can't keep going like this. Obama's going to end up getting slammed in 2012 if this doesn't fix itself soon. Whether or not it's his puppy, it will ultimately be him, and the democratic party, that are slammed over this news. Why? Because they are in charge and have been since the beginning of this economic turndown.

Unemployment Rate Rises to 9.2 Percent in June as Hiring Stalls - FoxNews.com

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Look … I don't want to get into this too deeply with you … but please .. lets be realistic about some things … . right now we have a 1.5 trillion dollar deficit … we can all agree on that .. right ? We can also all agree that we have a debt of someplace around 14 trillion dollars … right ?

Now please just for a moment .. forget pointing fingers .. just look at the numbers … do you realistically think it's possible to cut 1.5 trillion dollars from our spending in a single swoop ??? IMO that was what was done with the health care bill, and most can agree how that turned out .. We need to cut spending .. you and I agree fully on that .. but at the same time we need to take the time to get first the waste, then revise and fix the programs that are broken. Cut but cut as “wisely” as we can … and real.. honest cuts .. not just paper shuffling.

Leaving Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya would cover most of that alone. I think we could withstand that.

As I said when that is done and shown that the people (on both sides ) are serious about cutting .. then and only then will I be in favor of tax increases … across the board … like letting ALL the Bush tax cuts expire .. for every one ..

Now again .. in all fairness .. Business and people did quite well after the tax increase while Clinton was in office .. Bush cut the tax in an effort to jump start the economy after the dot com bubble broke, and for all practical purposes it did what it was intended to do .. But today we are in a completely different situation, the recession is much bigger, our debt is just plain crazy... Forget who's fault it is …. and realize where we are .. does it matter who is at fault in reality … because no matter who is at fault .. this is where we are … and we need to be fixing the problem.

Now one last point . The 14 trillion dollar debt … if we get to a balanced budget … that does nothing to reduce our debt …the interest on that debt is killing, even if we were to get to a 500 billion dollar surplus we are looking at 30 years to pay it off .. thats 2042 if we get to that surplus next year.

We need everything … we need jobs to help us, we need reduced spending to help us .. and IMO we need a very moderate tax increase right across the board to help us … then if were are lucky by the grace of God we might have a chance to pull out of this tail spin we are in.

Let's put a tax on trades. I'd be all for that. It makes the most sense to tax those who made the mess in the first place.
 
I feel your frustration.

Before he took office...



What the hell went wrong? LOL, i don't think that many people want to hear the answer.

now, i know what i think the answer is - i think the whole theory is crack. but i would be interested in hearing what YOU say the problem is.
 
Which is exactly what I said. There has not been a net private sector job gain since Obama took office. There was not a net private sector gain for the entire 8 years Bush was in office because the job losses in 2008 wiped out all the job gains while he was in office. The last president to have net private sector job gains when he left office was Clinton at 22 million new jobs.

Which is my point, both the hard core Republicans and they the hard core Democrats are trying to polish a turd here. The Republicans want everyone to ignore the fact that their guy sucked worse than Carter did with the economy, and the Democrats don't seem to want to recognize that at this point, it is Obama's economy.

Sorry but that is a lie, Bush still had a net job gain in his 8 years

Employment numbers

Jan 2001 137.7
Jan 2009 142.2 that is a gain of 4.5 million

2001 137778 137612 137783 137299 137092 136873 137071 136241 136846 136392 136238 136047
2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
2003 137417 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
2004 138472 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125
2005 140245 140385 140654 141254 141609 141714 142026 142434 142401 142548 142499 142752
2006 143142 143444 143765 143794 144108 144370 144229 144631 144797 145292 145477 145914
2007 146032 146043 146368 145686 145952 146079 145926 145685 146193 145885 146483 146173
2008 146421 146165 146173 146306 146023 145768 145515 145187 145021 144677 143907 143188
2009 142221 141687 140854 140902 140438 140038 139817 139433 138768 138242 138381 137792
 
I bet you weren't saying that when the fabricated recession got Obama elected.

It was a real recession. Obama did inherit a crappy economy. The point is that it's still a crappy economy almost 3 years later.
 
It was a real recession. Obama did inherit a crappy economy. The point is that it's still a crappy economy almost 3 years later.

A crappy economy, sabotaged by the Democrats before they took over Congress and made confoundedly so, after they took over Congress.
 
A crappy economy, sabotaged by the Democrats before they took over Congress and made confoundedly so, after they took over Congress.

I wonder how many Democrats claimed that the Democrats were sabotaging the economy fro 2007-2008 when they had total control of the Congress. Didn't the country go into recession in December 2007?
 
I wonder how many Democrats claimed that the Democrats were sabotaging the economy fro 2007-2008 when they had total control of the Congress. Didn't the country go into recession in December 2007?

But...but...but...it's Bush's fault! :lamo

You'll never hear them admit to who was running the show at Fannie and Freddie while things were, "just fine", either.
 
But...but...but...it's Bush's fault! :lamo

You'll never hear them admit to who was running the show at Fannie and Freddie while things were, "just fine", either.

Exactly, Franklin Raines and Jamie Gorelick made millions, Big Democrats
 
Sorry but that is a lie, Bush still had a net job gain in his 8 years

Employment numbers

Jan 2001 137.7
Jan 2009 142.2 that is a gain of 4.5 million

2001 137778 137612 137783 137299 137092 136873 137071 136241 136846 136392 136238 136047
2002 135701 136438 136177 136126 136539 136415 136413 136705 137302 137008 136521 136426
2003 137417 137482 137434 137633 137544 137790 137474 137549 137609 137984 138424 138411
2004 138472 138542 138453 138680 138852 139174 139556 139573 139487 139732 140231 140125
2005 140245 140385 140654 141254 141609 141714 142026 142434 142401 142548 142499 142752
2006 143142 143444 143765 143794 144108 144370 144229 144631 144797 145292 145477 145914
2007 146032 146043 146368 145686 145952 146079 145926 145685 146193 145885 146483 146173
2008 146421 146165 146173 146306 146023 145768 145515 145187 145021 144677 143907 143188
2009 142221 141687 140854 140902 140438 140038 139817 139433 138768 138242 138381 137792

I stand corrected, but it was still the worst job creation rate for a president on record.

Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ

Which is kind of my point. The economy was **** when Obama took office and has not gotten much better.
 
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