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    Re: Unemployment Rate Rises to 9.2 Percent in June as Hiring Stalls

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    YES BOTH SIDES !!!! Even in bush years.
    Good!

    So it is okay to sacrifice the debt ceiling for Big Oil subsidies
    I was speaking more generally - if what the other side wants to do is, long term, worse than doing nothing, then there's nothing wrong with refusing to compormise, forcing that nothing be done.

    But, in ther terms you use - not raising the debt ceiling will force the government to live witnin its means. Long term, this is the best solution possible. So, doing nothing is the best thing to do.

    Long term that is true. But the way you guys are trying to do it is nuts.
    Your guys aren't willing to consider it in a meaningful way, as cutting back government hand-outs reduces the Democtratic voter base.
    So, if the choice is something that's "nuts" but saves the country, or doing nothing and allowing the county to fail, the only rational choice is the "nuts" solution.

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    Re: Unemployment Rate Rises to 9.2 Percent in June as Hiring Stalls

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    You know this is getting really irritating. Where have we come to as a country when we take pleasure in bad unemployment numbers because it makes the other side look bad? Where have we come to when it is a "good" thing to not compromise to get things done. Both parties are treating american citizens as monopoly board game pieces just to prove a political point.
    Pleasure? I don't think anyone is pleased. I'm pissed big time that we spent all that money for nothing.

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    Re: Unemployment Rate Rises to 9.2 Percent in June as Hiring Stalls

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Search my post history during the first month of the Obama presidency, and you will see a clear resemblance to that of the bold aspect of that quote.

    What we need(ed) is:largest public works construction program since the inception of the interstate highway system
    You know political considerations would never allow another WPA-type program. I've heard both liberal and conservative economic professors say repeatedly "good politics is bad economics, and vice versa"
    Nobody who wins a war indulges in a bifurcated definition of victory. War is a political act; victory and defeat have meaning only in political terms. A country incapable of achieving its political objectives at an acceptable cost is losing the war, regardless of battlefield events.

    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

    All the same, it's nonsense. To paraphrase Vince Lombardi, show me a political loser, and I'll show you a loser.
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    Re: Unemployment Rate Rises to 9.2 Percent in June as Hiring Stalls

    Quote Originally Posted by Tettsuo View Post
    States have been cutting back jobs since the Recession began......a loss of 39,000 government jobs is a drop in the bucket considering only 57,000 private sector jobs were created.......when we need 200,000 just to jeep up with population.....and 300-500 thousand to make significant dents in unemployment.

    The Reagan Recovery saw 600,000 jobs created per month........and it wasnt because this country was investing in a bunch of Public Sector Union Slobs.........
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    Re: Unemployment Rate Rises to 9.2 Percent in June as Hiring Stalls

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Few things.

    1. "How patriotic are you if we are hoping for the president demise in order to put your candidate in the white house"
    Okay, here's the deal. If you feel like a president's policies will have a negative effect, you are hoping for those policies to fail. That would mean that the negative effect never comes. That's a good thing. Hoping that a president fails to IMPLEMENT those policies, thereby destroying those negative effects....also a good thing. There are very few people who want the president to fail "no matter the cost". Those who do are hacks, and not representative of the whole.



    2. Public sector job loss = less government spending. Less on salary, benefits, work-space, etc. Less government spending = less debt. Private sector jobs are a net gain for the government in terms of revenue. Tax revenue via income tax, employer taxes, and economic contribution (corporate taxes on profits, etc). Loosing public sector jobs hurts inititally, but if the economy is bolstered in other ways it is a temporary hit and we'll be better for it in the long term.
    Good hard working people I know lost their job for the city and are still trying to land a job to feed their family. Regardless of what you conservatives think, public workers are just as important as private workers and it is a not a "good" thing when someone looses their job. No one deserves this fate.

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    Re: Unemployment Rate Rises to 9.2 Percent in June as Hiring Stalls

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Such a stimulus plan would likely have delivered the greatest proverbial bang for the buck. Unfortunately, political considerations made it necessari for the program to be structured with low multiplier activities i.e., one-time payments to retirees, extension of the first-time homebuyer credit, etc. In addition, such a program would have improved U.S. infrastructure, which has been aging, and is falling behind the newer infrastructure in numerous rising economies. In the long-run, the infrastructure gap will also undermine U.S. competitiveness.
    I am thinking bigger in terms of public works. While highway renovation is always on the table when discussing infrastructure stimulus, the inconvenience created in the largest metropolitan areas will actually be a negative to job creating activities. Take this for example (I'll be out of here tomorrow!). IMHO, the majority of infrastructure renovation should occur during normal growth years.

    As for a big idea?

    Providing free wimax wireless internet throughout the U.S. is one of them. Essentially, the Federal government would contract current large scale for profit providers to construct and manage the system, granting already held monopolies official status, and requiring partnerships between the largest local providers.
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Unemployment Rate Rises to 9.2 Percent in June as Hiring Stalls

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Apparently the situation is so dire that the President is going to Address Us. It's so important he's even cancelled this month's vacation.



    Cancelled ... vacation??? Must be serious.
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    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Unemployment Rate Rises to 9.2 Percent in June as Hiring Stalls

    If we would have built roads, at least we would have had roads as opposed to filling the coffers of the very institutes that caused the collapse.

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    Re: Unemployment Rate Rises to 9.2 Percent in June as Hiring Stalls

    Quote Originally Posted by Goldenboy219 View Post
    Providing free wimax wireless internet throughout the U.S. is one of them. Essentially, the Federal government would contract current large scale for profit providers to construct and manage the system, granting already held monopolies official status, and requiring partnerships between the largest local providers.
    I know that you know that there is no such thing as "free" internet.

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    Re: Unemployment Rate Rises to 9.2 Percent in June as Hiring Stalls

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post



    Cancelled ... vacation??? Must be serious.
    If he skips golf this weekend we know he's at least mildly interested in the problems at hand.

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