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    Re: Minnesota Loses AAA Rating on Budget Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Careful or you'll lose your Centrist rating by me. It's really tough to get on my centrist list, since you're the only one on it. You failed to support debt reduction measures when you said not raising the ceiling was irresponsible. That puts you squarely leaning left...not center. Don't believe me, keep an eye on who's "Liking" your posts.
    Oh, please. EVERYBODY can see what's happening in Washington, and it's not just liberals.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/opinion/05brooks.html

    Of course, now the blog-o-sphere has decided that this obviously conservative journalist is no longer conservative, based on that post.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brooks_(journalist)

    People are going to say things. Shock-n-awe, y'all. It doesn't mean they've suddenly changed their political stance. It means they're honest.

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    Re: Minnesota Loses AAA Rating on Budget Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    Oh, please. EVERYBODY can see what's happening in Washington, and it's not just liberals.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/05/opinion/05brooks.html

    Of course, now the blog-o-sphere has decided that this obviously conservative journalist is no longer conservative, based on that post.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Brooks_(journalist)

    People are going to say things. Shock-n-awe, y'all. It doesn't mean they've suddenly changed their political stance. It means they're honest.
    Then liberals better get with the program, and start cutting spending.
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    Re: Minnesota Loses AAA Rating on Budget Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Do you feel if the US did something similar in August, it would lose is AAA rating?

    And what effect would it have on the economy of the US and the global economy?
    my opinion is that the US won't risk default. our government may be partisan and petty, but it's not suicidal.

    what will happen is that both sides will posture long enough to scare wall street. and that could have consequences.

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    Re: Minnesota Loses AAA Rating on Budget Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Then liberals better get with the program, and start cutting spending.
    You might want to get with the progam. That's what they've had on the table all along. It's the party of No that's stuck on stupid.

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    Re: Minnesota Loses AAA Rating on Budget Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post

    2. The use of gimmicks to balance the budget during the recession is something that could have adverse implications for Tim Pawlenty's Presidential campaign (damages his fiscal credibility and undermines the credibility of his call for a balanced budget amendment).
    Let Pawlenty do for America what he did for Minnesota?????


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    Re: Minnesota Loses AAA Rating on Budget Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    my opinion is that the US won't risk default. our government may be partisan and petty, but it's not suicidal.

    what will happen is that both sides will posture long enough to scare wall street. and that could have consequences.
    If the govt hadn't gotten involved in spending for things it shouldn't (80 years ago), we wouldn't be in this mess. Entitlements were never part of what the Founders set up because they knew it doesn't work.

    When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic? Ben Franklin

    The principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale. Thomas Jefferson

    Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms (of government) those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny” Thomas Jefferson

    We must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt. We must make our election between economy and liberty or profusion and servitude. If we run into such debt, as that we must be taxed in our meat and in our drink, in our necessaries and our comforts, in our labors and our amusements, for our calling and our creeds . . . we [will] have no time to think, no means of calling our miss-managers to account but be glad to obtain subsistence by hiring ourselves to rivet their chains on the necks of our fellow-sufferers. And this is the tendency of all human governments. A departure from principle in one instance becomes a precedent . . . till the bulk of society is reduced to be mere automatons of misery. And the fore-horse of this frightful team is public debt. taxation follows that, and in its train wretchedness and oppression. Thomas Jefferson
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    Re: Minnesota Loses AAA Rating on Budget Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by BDBoop View Post
    You might want to get with the progam. That's what they've had on the table all along. It's the party of No that's stuck on stupid.
    We don't need to pay more taxes, we pay enough. The left is ALL ABOUT ENTITLEMENTS.
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    Re: Minnesota Loses AAA Rating on Budget Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    We don't need to pay more taxes, we pay enough. The left is ALL ABOUT ENTITLEMENTS.
    This isn't about YOU paying more taxes! And as an aside, I'd be happy to pay more taxes if it would get us out of this mess. Do NOT presume to tell me what the left is all about. Not if it's going to be nothing but talking points and insults.

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    Re: Minnesota Loses AAA Rating on Budget Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    We don't need to pay more taxes, we pay enough. The left is ALL ABOUT ENTITLEMENTS.
    You don't have the slightest idea what the left is all about. Stop letting Limbaugh tell you that.
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    Re: Minnesota Loses AAA Rating on Budget Problems

    Quote Originally Posted by 1Perry View Post
    I'm not sure how one figures that getting oneself even further into debt is the responsible action.
    agreed. I am sick of the blowhards trying to paint up as down and wrong as right.

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