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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So in other words you are just fear mongering.
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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So in other words you are just fear mongering.
    WTH are you talking about? What exactly is fear mongering about my post? Give details instead of vague responses that do nothing but show you have nothing substantial to add.

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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    His rights were not "denied". This is from the article.
    for this to be a valid justification for not providing the alien prisoner his counselor rights, we would have to believe tejas was never aware of his mexican citizenship
    and we know that was not the case
    thus, it is not a valid excuse for our nation's failure to allow due process
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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    What the hell does an invasion have to do with this? Non sequitur much?

    Of course you choose to ignore the main points of my post and instead make a silly comparison on how we are not as bad as other countries.
    I'm saying this was not an international incident. It was a trial for capital murder. Criminal laws apply.
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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I'm sure in terms of many countries the risks they would take in terms of diplomatic relations and financial/military support would deter them from behaving in that manner.
    Actually, I doubt that the U.S. will end diplomatic relations and financial/military support to a country over refusing to allow one American to talk with a consul.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Any opportunity to bash the US.
    What exactly do you have against allowing foreign nationals to seek legal counsel from their country?

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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    for this to be a valid justification for not providing the alien prisoner his counselor rights, we would have to believe tejas was never aware of his mexican citizenship
    and we know that was not the case
    thus, it is not a valid excuse for our nation's failure to allow due process
    It's not up to the state to assert his rights for him. He has to do it. People waive their rights all the time.
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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    We signed and ratified a treaty. The Constitution says that is the law of the land. It's not a loss of sovereignty as many would claim, because our government chose to ratify it. He was denied due process as he would need his foreign consulate. If you were in another country and denied your country's legal support, would you consider that a fair trial?
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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I'm saying this was not an international incident. It was a trial for capital murder. Criminal laws apply.
    Thank you for that obvious clarification!

    I can make useless statements too:

    Federal law supersedes state laws.

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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    What exactly do you have against allowing foreign nationals to seek legal counsel from their country?
    I have nothing against it. This guy never asked to do it. It only came up when he was looking for a reason to save his miserable ass.
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