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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    You know, we could have done this properly, and still executed the slug. But the way we went about it, by breaking a treaty, means that the rights of no American overseas is going to be guaranteed now. This was an utterly stupid thing to do.
    Which overseas countries are you particularly concerned about?

    Civilized Western countries will provide justice while the rest will continue to deny the rights of all peoples, including their own, anyway.

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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Yeah its America's fault not the scum bag who should have been croaked in a much more painful fashion?
    yes it is our nation's fault
    our country agreed to the Vienna accords providing for counselor contact for aliens under criminal arrest/indictment
    no matter how guilty he was of a heinous crime, we denied that due process to this alien
    why would we now expect such access to American counsel being granted to American citizens in legal trouble while located in foreign lands
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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If an American citizen commits a crime in a foreign country, then they should get what they deserve.

    In regard to the OP: I hope the bastard suffered, before he died.
    and here is the problem
    a shame i have to point it out to you

    if the American citizen is INNOCENT in foreign country, he may not be able to access American counsel to get what he deserves - discharge from prison - because we chose not to honor our agreement to abide by he Vienna convention
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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Big picture is this guy got the justice he deserved. The fact that he was a Mexican national is tangential as best.
    i disagree, with you
    while he did get what he deserved
    we failed to provide due process
    that can potentially be damaging to us all
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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    our soft hearted posters think that an American in another country with a valid visa is somehow the same as an illegal. If one of our citizens was an illegal in say Botswana and raped and murdered some girl I couldn't care less if he wasn't allowed to see our consul. On the other hand if someone is on a valid visa or entered lawfully that is different-which would have been the case with a Mexican with proper paperwork here in the states
    I don't care what that POS did. He had right to Mexican consul like any foreign national. It really annoys me how so many conservatives claim to support the Constitution and all that it stands for. An attack on it is an attack on all of us, but if it has anything to do with the legal protections of a criminal, they would just as soon wipe their ass with the document. Scumbags have the same rights as all of us.
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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    And the next time an American citizen arrested in a foreign country asks for access to the U.S. Consul, we shouldn't be too surprised if the answer they get back is ' why should we allow you this? Your country doesn't."

    The issue isn't whether or not this piece of crap deserved to be executed. Of course he did.

    The issue is what affect this has on the generally accepted principle that people arrested in a foreign country have the right to talk to a representative of their own country. Christ even Iran allows that.

    But this is a big picture thing that is obviously far beyond the grasp of the Neanderthal Perry and his knee jerk supporters.
    As I recall this murderer never asked for access.

    The best way to avoid trouble in another country is don't go there.

    Mexico for example. Only a damn fool would go there.

    I invite all Liberals to tell us hoe their trip went, if they live thrught it. LOL just kidding all Liberals aren't fools.

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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkenAsparagus View Post
    I don't care what that POS did. He had right to Mexican consul like any foreign national. It really annoys me how so many conservatives claim to support the Constitution and all that it stands for. An attack on it is an attack on all of us, but if it has anything to do with the legal protections of a criminal, they would just as soon wipe their ass with the document. Scumbags have the same rights as all of us.
    The right to contact a foreign consulate is in the Constitution?
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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Im ok with this. Stay out of hostile countries. Obey local laws. And if you don't and you're arrested, sorry about your bad luck.
    Tell that to the thousands of journalists who are overseas, providing news coverage for you while you sit on your ass.

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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    The right to contact a foreign consulate is in the Constitution?
    We signed and ratified a treaty. The Constitution says that is the law of the land. It's not a loss of sovereignty as many would claim, because our government chose to ratify it. He was denied due process as he would need his foreign consulate. If you were in another country and denied your country's legal support, would you consider that a fair trial?
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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Degreez View Post
    Tell that to the thousands of journalists who are overseas, providing news coverage for you while you sit on your ass.
    This would be more winning if you had said service members. Journalists. LOL. Yes, I do truly feel safer with Anderson Cooper on the job.
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