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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    Assuming it's true that Texas did not know he was a foreign national until well after his case was tried and appealed, how do you think they should have gone about it?
    They should have asked him for proof of citizenship......... oops, can't do that either.

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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    They should have asked him for proof of citizenship......... oops, can't do that either.
    you want us to believe that tejas did not know that he was a mexican national at any time
    absurd
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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    It an overstatement to say that this person was executed without due process. Why do I get the feeling no amount of due process would be enough for you. Isn't all this really just a case of opposing the death penalty?
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    that fellow likely deserved his just punishment
    but he received unjust punishment because he was denied due process
    but this concern expressed by us is in no way in defense of the perp
    it is in defense of due process
    that we have established precedent which might cause Americans arrested in foreign lands who need American counselor access to be denied it
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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    And the next time an American citizen arrested in a foreign country asks for access to the U.S. Consul, we shouldn't be too surprised if the answer they get back is ' why should we allow you this? Your country doesn't."

    The issue isn't whether or not this piece of crap deserved to be executed. Of course he did.

    The issue is what affect this has on the generally accepted principle that people arrested in a foreign country have the right to talk to a representative of their own country. Christ even Iran allows that.

    But this is a big picture thing that is obviously far beyond the grasp of the Neanderthal Perry and his knee jerk supporters.
    Americans never could expect good treatment in Mexico. You forget about the Federales, the most corrupt military police force in Mexico, the whole world. They have been brutalizing Americans who find their way down in Mexico for years, and when they don't have Americans to roust, they are busy beating up their own citizens. Where have you been? Also Mexico doesn't provide English translations on the products they sell in their stores, nor do they cater to non-Spanish speakers. Why don't you know this?

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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiggen View Post
    And the next time an American citizen arrested in a foreign country asks for access to the U.S. Consul, we shouldn't be too surprised if the answer they get back is ' why should we allow you this? Your country doesn't."
    You do know that Mexico has been denying Americans (and anyone else) legal counsel for decades?
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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    you want us to believe that tejas did not know that he was a mexican national at any time
    absurd
    How would they have known ??? Thanks to the ACLU and their liberal apologists, they are not allowed to ask. They make it illegal to ask about citizenship status, then cry a river claiming they should have "known".

    He spoke English and there are millions of Mexican-Americans in Texas.

    According to the new stories, they didn't know until after he was tried and convicted.

    YOUR assumption is the absurd one.

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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    They didn't know he was a Mexican and he has lived here since he was 2 years old. If he doesn't inform them that he is a Mexican, then why should they inform him about consular access.

    Also, he did get access to a representative of the Mexican government when he told them that he was a Mexican.
    You would think they would check the citizenship status of defendants rather than wait years and ensure his rights are protected BEFORE he is sentenced to death...
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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Great idea !!! Let's require all law enforcement to read prisoners their Miranda rights, the Bill of Rights, and each and every treaty we've ever signed.

    That'll speed up the justice system........
    No, just the one that REQUIRES notification that as a foreign national he has the right to contact his consulate.
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    Re: Mexican national executed in Texas

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Evidently not. The Supreme Court didn't seem to think so.
    And given the clarity of Article VI Clause 2, the decision is highly puzzling. Still doesn't change the fact that the US violated the treaty.
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