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    Re: Fort Hood suspect will face death penalty

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    I would say that when you go nuts and kill as many people as this Terrorist did you have the right to remain silent for by God ever.

    Why should this Radical be any better than O.B.L. or Gaddafi.

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    Was God there with a loaded gun or are you presuming to speak for him?

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    Re: Fort Hood suspect will face death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    Was God there with a loaded gun or are you presuming to speak for him?

    When we are willing to toss our civil rights out the window, even in a horrible case such as this, then we are sealing our own doom. Once surrendered, a right is no longer a right.
    That's a bit dramatic. Saying the guy should have been shot dead in the process of committing mass murder is hardly an infringement upon his or anybody else's rights.
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    Re: Fort Hood suspect will face death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    That's a bit dramatic. Saying the guy should have been shot dead in the process of committing mass murder is hardly an infringement upon his or anybody else's rights.
    If it had been the only way to stop him I would agree. Evidently it wasn't the only way to stop him, now was it?

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    Re: Fort Hood suspect will face death penalty

    If I ever go on a shooting rampage and kill a bunch of people on a MILITARY base I give anyone permission to kill me on the spot, since it is obviously a suicide mission any way and I would deserve to be shot dead.
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    Re: Fort Hood suspect will face death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    If it had been the only way to stop him I would agree. Evidently it wasn't the only way to stop him, now was it?
    The fact that he didn't die probably has more to do with the fact that the woman shooting at him was also injured during the shoot-out. The man is paralyzed from the waist down..they put in an honest effort to kill him.

    And let's be honest...he didn't expect to get out of there alive. He wouldn't have opened fire in a room full of military personell if he thought he stood a chance of getting out.
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    Re: Fort Hood suspect will face death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    If it had been the only way to stop him I would agree. Evidently it wasn't the only way to stop him, now was it?
    He didn't die by sheer luck, he's paralyzed for life, suffered multiple gunshots. They WERE shooting to kill. Just a shame in some ways he lived.
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    Re: Fort Hood suspect will face death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    The fact that he didn't die probably has more to do with the fact that the woman shooting at him was also injured during the shoot-out. The man is paralyzed from the waist down..they put in an honest effort to kill him.

    And let's be honest...he didn't expect to get out of there alive. He wouldn't have opened fire in a room full of military personell if he thought he stood a chance of getting out.
    Yet he did get out, and will face justice. I fail to see where the system failed in this case.

    The thing about frontier justice is while it sure sounds nice and would wrap things in a hurry, it leads to anarchy. If we are to remain a civilized nation, then we must first be a nation of laws and rights. Those who are charged with maintaining those laws and rights should also be held to a higher standard.

    Yes, there are times indeed where defending themselves is required and should be done. There are times when the powers they hold are abused, there are times when the duties are discharged perfectly.

    In the case of this man, if he is mentally competent, then I agree with the death penalty due to the overwhelming evidence against him. According to the law, not according to frontier justice.

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    Re: Fort Hood suspect will face death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    Even a POS like this guy has a right to a fair trial. Rights are not privileges that can be withdrawn.
    I don't disagree. Fair trial doesn't have to mean spending millions of dollars. What is up to debate is should it take that much for a "fair" trail, when its pretty conclusive he did it.
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    Re: Fort Hood suspect will face death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    So I guess the fact that he was actually arrested and detained without being killed was a miracle then. Imagine, they didn't use excessive force when they arrested him. What a concept.
    When someone is in the act of killing people, there is no such thing as excessive force.
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    Re: Fort Hood suspect will face death penalty

    Quote Originally Posted by Polotick View Post
    Yet he did get out, and will face justice. I fail to see where the system failed in this case.

    The thing about frontier justice is while it sure sounds nice and would wrap things in a hurry, it leads to anarchy. If we are to remain a civilized nation, then we must first be a nation of laws and rights. Those who are charged with maintaining those laws and rights should also be held to a higher standard.

    Yes, there are times indeed where defending themselves is required and should be done. There are times when the powers they hold are abused, there are times when the duties are discharged perfectly.

    In the case of this man, if he is mentally competent, then I agree with the death penalty due to the overwhelming evidence against him. According to the law, not according to frontier justice.
    I don't think anybody (at least I didn't) said that the system has failed.
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