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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

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    That is not what he said. Nice fallacy though.

    Some people would be uncomfortable, fact of life and it does not make it wrong just because you don't like it how someone feels.
    A person can feel anyway they like. When those feelings would affect their ability to do the job should be they be doing that job in the first place?
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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    A person can feel anyway they like. When those feelings would affect their ability to do the job should be they be doing that job in the first place?
    Allot of people would be out of work, lol.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Well then, why do you even care if gays can serve? If you have such little respect for our service members, then you shouldn't give a **** about gays who serve in the military.
    They should have the opportunity to do what they want. If this is what they want to do there should not be a wall against them. I don't recall saying i had any problem with the troops. It is the military as a whole that I do not care for. You may want to make sure you read what I type before you respond and make me against the individual service members. If that is what they want to do that's fine.
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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    A person can feel anyway they like. When those feelings would affect their ability to do the job should be they be doing that job in the first place?
    So, if a soldier says, "fag", in front of a gay soldier; that gay soldier shouldn't be doing the job?

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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    They should have the opportunity to do what they want. If this is what they want to do there should not be a wall against them. I don't recall saying i had any problem with the troops. It is the military as a whole that I do not care for. You may want to make sure you read what I type before you respond and make me against the individual service members. If that is what they want to do that's fine.
    The troops are the military.

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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    They should have the opportunity to do what they want. If this is what they want to do there should not be a wall against them. I don't recall saying i had any problem with the troops. It is the military as a whole that I do not care for. You may want to make sure you read what I type before you respond and make me against the individual service members. If that is what they want to do that's fine.
    You do realize that the individual solders ARE the military? Without them, it would not exist?

    Anyway, this is off topic.

    I do agree they should be allowed to serve openly and honorably just like anyone else.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Sensitivity training is a part of all kinds of jobs in the civilian sector like police and fire etc. It was done when the races were integrated as well. It is the way our government operates to head off possible problems.

    Needed or not it is what they, or government does. As I said it is pretty irrelevant at this point.



    Because it sounds just as hateful as those you are trying to rally against.

    The personal attacks are also unnecessary.
    Thanks that was a helpful response. I can understand sensitivity training for dealing with people that have some issue. It works for me.
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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    You do realize that the individual solders ARE the military? Without them, it would not exist?

    Anyway, this is off topic.

    I do agree they should be allowed to serve openly and honorably just like anyone else.
    No they are not. They follow the orders. Yes we are off topic.
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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    No they are not. They follow the orders. Yes we are off topic.
    Who do you think is giving the orders? Other solders.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Thanks that was a helpful response. I can understand sensitivity training for dealing with people that have some issue. It works for me.
    It is NOT for dealing with people who have problems. That would be some kind of psychological counseling.

    It is learning to accept others who are different and treating them the same as anyone else under the law and in the performance of your job.
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    Benjii likes the protests...he'd be largely irrelevant without them. So he needs to speak where he knows there will be protests against him and that makes him responsible for the protests.
    Quote Originally Posted by Absentglare View Post
    You can successfully wipe your ass with toilet paper, that doesn't mean that you should.

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