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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

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    Training is a major part of being prepared. You know that.

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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

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    I support the repeal of DADT. But people largely don't oppose it because they are bigots.
    Not sure it can be proven either way, but I really find it hard to believe that absent bigotry anyoen woould really see a problem. You almost have to have a view that is skewed to believe there would be a problem.

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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

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    Gays have waited long enough. Let the straight folks deal with their bigotry on their own. Do it now.
    Well, when bad things happen, because this wasn't done smartly, you only have yourselves to blame.

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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not sure it can be proven either way, but I really find it hard to believe that absent bigotry anyoen woould really see a problem. You almost have to have a view that is skewed to believe there would be a problem.
    Was there racism in the military when you were serving?

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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Training is a major part of being prepared. You know that.
    yeah, that's what I'm saying. Take a deep breath and reread everything, including what you wrote and see if get to the same place.

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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I support the repeal of DADT. But people largely don't oppose it because they are bigots.
    Then what would be their problem if not closed minded bigotry. There is no reason other than that would make this a problem at all. Imagine the military trying to teach people to get along because there are some gays. They haven't ever had to teach the gays to get along with the straight people we do it every day. So the problem with this change lies on the shoulders of straight people.
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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Then what would be their problem if not closed minded bigotry. There is no reason other than that would make this a problem at all. Imagine the military trying to teach people to get along because there are some gays. They haven't ever had to teach the gays to get along with the straight people we do it every day. So the problem with this change lies on the shoulders of straight people.
    That comment almost sounds as bad. Bigotry or not is irrelevant.

    DADT really needs to just go away. The majority of gay people in the military are doing the job and that is that.

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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Then what would be their problem if not closed minded bigotry. There is no reason other than that would make this a problem at all. Imagine the military trying to teach people to get along because there are some gays. They haven't ever had to teach the gays to get along with the straight people we do it every day. So the problem with this change lies on the shoulders of straight people.
    Their socialization, maybe? Could be that they just don't know any better. You have to take into consideration just how diverse the military community really is. I knew soldiers that showed up to basic training that didn't know about proper hygene. Had one kid that didn't even know how to shave!

    To assume that plain ol' bigotry is the problem, not only insults our service members, but endangers gay service members's personal safety.

    If you force this issue, bad things will happen. If you want the abolition of DADT to have a happy ending, you'll ask that the implementation be done at a reasonable pace, that will best serve the members of our military.

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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Well, when bad things happen, because this wasn't done smartly, you only have yourselves to blame.
    Bad things will happen because of the problems the straight people will cause. Gays are not apt to be all that open in the beginning. I would not want to be the first one to come out and have a bunch of straight people attack me. That would be scary for the gays. Gays are not likely to hit on straight people anyway. Not in that setting and it rarely happens in regular life. TheGaydar goes up and you get the sense that a person is gay. In all my years I have hit on one straight woman. She was not really upset by it. She was actually somewhat flattered. That has been very rare in my case and with friends I have had few that have hit on a straight. Why in the world would a gay want to hit on a straight person?
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    Re: ĎDonít Ask, Donít Tellí Ban Must Take Effect, Court Rules

    Quote Originally Posted by katiegrrl0 View Post
    Bad things will happen because of the problems the straight people will cause. Gays are not apt to be all that open in the beginning. I would not want to be the first one to come out and have a bunch of straight people attack me. That would be scary for the gays. Gays are not likely to hit on straight people anyway. Not in that setting and it rarely happens in regular life. TheGaydar goes up and you get the sense that a person is gay. In all my years I have hit on one straight woman. She was not really upset by it. She was actually somewhat flattered. That has been very rare in my case and with friends I have had few that have hit on a straight. Why in the world would a gay want to hit on a straight person?
    That's a very bigotted comment. Black Dog is right.

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