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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

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    I was with you until the last sentence. I really wish you'd have stopped one sentence sooner.
    What's the problem?

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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Or...

    As usual you come into threads like these and say deliberately inflammatory things to rile people up because you get off on it, This isn't he first thread to do with suicide that you've bombed with pathetic bull**** like this.

    You have enough tissues on hand?
    You can add "and death of soldiers" next to that...

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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    Quote Originally Posted by Marshabar View Post
    What's the problem?
    Where to begin. It has nothing to do with the topic. It's not likely true. It smells of partisan nonsense. Wars cannot be fought without poltical realities. We have civilian leadership for a reason.

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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    I never even knew that this was banned. Good reversal in my opinion.

    Now as a vet, I see that there are valid points here. Yes, there are ****ed up people that get in the military and then snap due to unknown pre-existing conditions (Eric Harris, one of the Columbione shooters tried to get in the Marines, but was not allowed in due to his psych meds) . That's why it's important for boot camps to be harder, rather than softer. To weed them out in a controlled environment where they have less chance to harm themselves or others. There are also some who come back different from injuries suffered in combat, or could make it through a "softer" boot camp and then not be properly prepared (as much as one can) for the stresses that combat roles entail. Other things might be personal issues that simply arose while in the service. The actual "service" had nothing to do with it, nor were they suicidal prior. There are as many reasons and avenues for the path to suicide being a service member as there are for civilians. Some will paint suicide in the military as being directly tied to being in the military and others will say it has nothing to do with their service. The truth may include both ends of that spectrum, and anywhere in between. Some people (who incur injuries sustained in training/combat) I would feel sympathy for. Traumatic brain injuries can completely change a person. People that want to kill themselves because their g/f was ****ing another Marine, I just consider weak but thats just opinion.

    Regardless of the reasons, I see no reason why the government couldn't at least extend a condolence to the family.
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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Can't blame the service. Most of those people were ****ed up, before they ever enlisted.
    In another thread you argued that EVERY servicemembers death should be treated the same way.m I can provide a link if you like

    I dont think that anyone servicemember who dies while being in the service should be criticized. In just a few days, I've seen you insult every single dead servicemember whose death has been reported on DP.
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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ah! You illustrate my point. Thank you!

    FWIW, I don't blame the person. My youngest daughter is a special needs child and I certainly don't ****ing blame her!
    You said they were screwed up before they even joined, and their service had nothing to do with their death.

    No, you're not blaming the dead soldier.
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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    In another thread you argued that EVERY servicemembers death should be treated the same way.m I can provide a link if you like

    I dont think that anyone servicemember who dies while being in the service should be criticized. In just a few days, I've seen you insult every single dead servicemember whose death has been reported on DP.
    No, actually, I said that a soldier's death shouldn't be exploited for political purposes. Get it straight.

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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You said they were screwed up before they even joined, and their service had nothing to do with their death.

    No, you're not blaming the dead soldier.
    Of course I'm not. It's not their fault that they were ****ed up before they enlisted.

    I was responding to the post earlier in this thread that blamed the military for those soldiers commiting suicide. But, hey, I certainly don't expect any of the hand-wringers to notice that.

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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    No, actually, I said that a soldier's death shouldn't be exploited for political purposes. Get it straight.
    You said many things in that thread, not just that it shouldn't be expoited
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
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