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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    As glad as I am to hear this, I'm even more shocked that I never knew there was such a ban in the first place. How... utterly inhumane. It isn't a matter of "blame". These were members of the military serving their country. The family's grief is not lessened by the manner of death. The government should have always acknowleged that. Thankfully, a wrong has now been rectified.

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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Or, I use my actual real world experience to correct an erroneous statement.

    Do you really believe that the U.S. military is to blame for servicemen committing suicide? I'm thinking that you probably don't believe that.
    How the **** is offering CONDOLENCES to the families of suicide victims tantamount to blaming servicemen for suicide? You're just trolling in order to be a dick.
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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Umm which statement? That trauma affects different people differently? How about a little thing called the entire field of psychology?
    Any prior knowledge of the issue, or is this just another case where we're supposed to take your word for it, because you're smarter than the rest of us?

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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    How the **** is offering CONDOLENCES to the families of suicide victims tantamount to blaming servicemen for suicide? You're just trolling in order to be a dick.
    I never said anything of the sort. You need to apologize.

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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Ah! You illustrate my point. Thank you!

    FWIW, I don't blame the person. My youngest daughter is a special needs child and I certainly don't ****ing blame her!
    Just a fact, no one blamed the military for the suicides. The issue was they weren't sending condolences. Seems a no brainer that they should.

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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Any prior knowledge of the issue,
    Here. Read all about it here. I know it must come as a shock to you that not everyone reacts exactly the same way to the same situations:
    Psychological trauma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    or is this just another case where we're supposed to take your word for it, because you're smarter than the rest of us?
    Yeah, you really should do that more often.
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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I never said anything of the sort. You need to apologize.
    I'm sorry that you're such a miserable sack of **** that you want to attack suicide victims as being "****ed up before they enlisted" (and therefore unworthy of any human dignity).
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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Just a fact, no one blamed the military for the suicides. The issue was they weren't sending condolences. Seems a no brainer that they should.
    A fact? Well, no, not really:

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    I think it's really disturbing that they ever put a ban on these letters. Servicemen and women are more likely than any other group to attempt suicide...perhaps there's some cause and effect going on there. How the hell does, "I'm sorry we're probably partially to blame for your family member trying to kill themselves...but since they did, **** you and your grief" make any sense?
    hmm!

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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A fact? Well, no, not really:



    hmm!
    "probably partially to blame" is not "it's the military's fault entirely that people kill themselves".

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    Re: White House to lift ban on military suicide condolences

    I really don't think we should be honoring suicide. I have no problem with condolences, but we shouldn't honor their deaths when they commit suicide. This being said, I don't think it's wrong to honor how they lived and served.
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