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Casey Anthony Trial: Jury Reaches Verdict

krickitt said:
Holy sheet!!! O'Reilly is blowing a gasket!!!! FIGHTING with Geraldo. WOWWWWWW!! Never cared that much for O'Reilly, even on the radio. He is so mememe.. Get over it, Bill. The case stunk, they went over the top on charges, they lost.
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I remember I stopped watching the factor years ago when O'Reilly got into a screaming fit with Geraldo because Bill somehow thought that the case of an illegal alien killing someone while driving drunk was about illegal immigration. Geraldo stepped in and told him that this is clearly an issue of drunk drivers, not of immigration. He's insane.
 
krickitt said:
Holy sheet!!! O'Reilly is blowing a gasket!!!! FIGHTING with Geraldo. WOWWWWWW!! Never cared that much for O'Reilly, even on the radio. He is so mememe.. Get over it, Bill. The case stunk, they went over the top on charges, they lost.
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I don't watch O'Reilley - but I know him well enough to imagine how he feels about thi sand I probably agree.

he probably argues that Casey's behavior during her daughter 'missing' period and after everything started to come to ligh points to the activity and behavior of a guilty (or an informed and aware) individual whose trying to hide the truth, cover up activities and actions . . . .and looking at case law over the decades in all different states, it's absolutely true.

The people who ACT like she did during that time period ARE often the ones who are guilty.

Maybe there's more to it - like in the case of the other girl who was murdered, stuffed in a garbage bag and left in the parent's basement: muddle evidence collection, mistakes and errors within the investigation department and so on - everyoen involved tainting the potential outcome of the case with their self indulgent bull****.
 
Think I can agree with anyone who said the state went after to much with a murder charge with out a cause of death and the lack of forensic evidence that is nearly impossible to prove beyond a reasonable doubt.

I think there is such a fever over the verdict because of the mothers actions … not reporting a missing 2 year old until her mother got it out of her 31 days later .. out partying while here 2 year old child is missing. The lying to the police all this and more … points to some sort of wrong doing on her part … in my opinion the accidental death by drowning holds no water, because I can't wrap my mind around a grandmother .. grandfather .. or a mother … let alone all three of them trying to cover up and accidental drowning of their baby .. it just seems like the very first thing you would do is dial 911 as soon as the child was found in the hope no matter how slim that she could be brought back ..

Every thing points to someone doing something wrong .. and a 2 year old girl is dead because of it. I think that is the very thinking of most people here. Most people I know want justice .. in this case what we are shown is a mother, that was out partying , while her two year old daughter was missing, not a care in the world while her daughter lay rotting in plastic bags tossed in the woods like garbage .. these types of things causes outrage .. or at least it does with me ..

Did she murder her daughter .. I don't know .. but I feel certain that she knew she was dead, and any person that wraps their baby girl in plastic bags and tosses them in the woods .. then runs around like nothing happened … deserves to be punished …. and in this case … we didn't see justice served ..
 
Helix said:
local news pundit said 1 year per count. can't vouch for the accuracy of that, though.
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that is fairly accurate and the judge could order consecutive sentences (4 years) but since she has to be given credit for time served it is doubtful she would do any time (no one does all the time in a state sentence unless they have serious behavior issues in prison) at all
 
I'd just like to point out that I'm a rightie who feels like the jury did the right thing.
 
dontworrybehappy said:
Most righties on this site, not all but most, are of the belief "guilty if charged." They are up in arms about every person accused who is found not guilty. But are dead silent when a death row inmate is released due to a bad conviction.

I'd rather see 100 guilty people walk than 1 innocent people put to death.
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depends on the case. I would agree if we are dealing with violent street criminals or the OJ types who used a racist ploy to get away with murder. when it comes to white collar criminals, the soft hearted left, who can find numerous excuses for a black gang banger who shoots up a bank, tend to start looking like Madam DeFarge screaming for the heads of the "nobles"
 
dontworrybehappy said:
Most righties on this site, not all but most, are of the belief "guilty if charged." They are up in arms about every person accused who is found not guilty. But are dead silent when a death row inmate is released due to a bad conviction.

I'd rather see 100 guilty people walk than 1 innocent people put to death.
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Sorry, typing fast. I meant 1 innocent PERSON put to death.
 
The Barbarian said:
...in my opinion the accidental death by drowning holds no water,...
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I feel somewhat unclean doing this, but I really have no choice, twisted sense of black humor that I have...

So without further ado...pun not intended?

*hides*
 
The Giant Noodle said:
I knew she was innocent! She is really cute. :)
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She wasn't proven innocent. She was proven not guilty. You sound like the people who say that Michael Jackson was proven innocent :roll:

She definitely isn't innocent. It is pretty hard to believe she didn't kill that kid, but there is just not enough evidence there.
 
Gargantuan said:
She wasn't proven innocent. She was proven not guilty. You sound like the people who say that Michael Jackson was proven innocent :roll:

She definitely isn't innocent. It is pretty hard to believe she didn't kill that kid, but there is just not enough evidence there.
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Curious, here - just what evidence would have had to be present for her case to have gone 'guilty' ?

What could be missing?

I know there's really no point in debating it more - but still - what more evidence was necessary in this case? We all know what WAS presented as evidence - are people really saying that because there was no discernable wounded flesh on the bones of this dead child or no bugs that there's a complete lack of evidence? Because her mother didn't beat her in public there's just no way she didn't get rid of her because she was in the way? Becaue a roll of ductape was thrown away in the garbage - and a roll of garbage bags was used up - that casts sufficient doubt?

Look - if she didn't kill this child then someone did. I'm still disgusted that this is where it ends for this poor child who was just thrown out.

If all this actual evidence was 'insufficient' then how on earth do completely innocent people get sentenced to life in prison and even death row? Hundreds every year are released due to absolute innocents - btw . . . just what sense does this make to anyone?

I'm more so just disgusted more and more by our horrid judicial system and it's complete inefficiency.
 
Well, I read the comments on the first page so I can imagine how the rest of the thread went. I believe the bitch is guilty too. But as a legal matter, the prosecution's case was very, very weak. Most important, the medical examiner did not declare Caylee's death a homicide, and also declared the cause of death to be "unknown". I figured the jury would convict because Casey is a hateful person. If they had, I'm pretty sure it would have been overturned on appeal. I believe the jury was sitting in there saying to themselves the following:

Is Casey Anthony a pathological liar, who knows what happened to her daughter and didn't care? Yes. Is she charged with not caring that her daughter is dead? No.

Is there any proof that Casey Anthony caused Caylee's death, deliberately or not deliberately? No.

Is there any proof that Caylee was actually murdered? No.

Is there any evidence that Casey Anthony knew her daughter's body was rotting in a swamp? Yes. Is she charged with improper disposition of a body? No.

If the police had done their jobs and followed up thoroughly on Kronk's report of seeing "what looked like the top of a skull" back in August, there may have been tissue left for toxilogicals, DNA or other evidence available. As it was, I would have had a hard time voting "guilty" for a death that couldn't even be labeled as homicide in the first place. The child could have choked on a hot dog, for all we really know. We'll never learn the truth, because only Casey knows the truth and she isn't capable of telling it.

Anyway, don't hate on me. I would like this cold-hearted bitch to rot in jail, too, but legally the jury really had too little evidence and too much reasonable doubt. :(
 
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DiAnna said:
Well, I read the comments on the first page so I can imagine how the rest of the thread went. I believe the bitch is guilty too. But as a legal matter, the prosecution's case was very, very weak. Most important, the medical examiner did not declare Caylee's death a homocide, and also declared the cause of death to be "unknown". I figured the jury would convict because Casey is a hateful person. If they had, I'm pretty sure it would have been overturned on appeal. I believe the jury was sitting in there saying to themselves the following:

Is Casey Anthony a pathological liar, who knows what happened to her daughter and didn't care? Yes. Is she charged with not caring that her daughter is dead? No.

Is there any proof that Casey Anthony caused Caylee's death, deliberately or not deliberately? No.

Is there any proof that Caylee was actually murdered? No.

Is there any evidence that Casey Anthony knew her daughter's body was rotting in a swamp? Yes. Is she charged with improper disposition of a body? No.

If the police had done there jobs and followed up thoroughly on Kronk's report of seeing "what looked like the top of a skull" back in August, there may have been tissue left for toxilogicals, DNA or other evidence available. As it was, I would have had a hard time voting "guilty" for a death that couldn't even be labeled as homocide in the first place. The child could have choked on a hot dog, for all we really know. We'll never learn the truth, because only Casey knows the truth and she isn't capable of telling it.

Anyway, don't hate on me. I would like this cold-hearted bitch to rot in jail, too, but legally the jury really had too little evidence and too much reasonable doubt. :(
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Well, if Nancy Grace had been the lead prosecutor it probably would have been open and shut. She dedicated countless hours of her show to that case.
 
Namely the charge in the first degree.. that was ludicrous on the part of the state. There is no way to prove that she had been planning to murder her daughter. And again unfortunately even though the car smelled like death (you know the smell and never forget it, trust me and those detectives who testified) that doesn't prove without a doubt that Anthony is guilty of murdering her daughter. There is no established cause of death for the young girl, no time of death, etc. And with that first degree murder charge, you had to have all 12 agree to convict. That means that even if one of those jurors saw something wrong, there was going to be a lot of discussion and deliberation in that room that normally wouldn't have occurred on just a normal felony charge.
 
dontworrybehappy said:
Most righties on this site, not all but most, are of the belief "guilty if charged." They are up in arms about every person accused who is found not guilty. But are dead silent when a death row inmate is released due to a bad conviction.

I'd rather see 100 guilty people walk than 1 innocent people put to death.
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Separate topic but doesn't the fact that those who are released from death row mean (it is hoped) that innocent persons were not put to death?

Do you want conservatives in those cases to demand the conviction stand and execute regardless?
 
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Aunt Spiker said:
Un ****ing believable - I'm disgusted.

Are they going to pursue another case, then? This doesn't answer what happened to her, how she died, who took her tiny dead body, taped her up and shoved her in a trashbag as if she meant absolutely nothing and threw her away. Not even a proper burial - something that many murderers bare to manage for their victims.

No justice at all these days for any wrongs committed - our country's a ****ing disgrace.
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This was just one trial.. I kind of don't think it's the norm. btw... did you watch most of the trial yourself? It seems like most people who watched the trail constantly thought the evidence was conflicting.

I think the reason she wasn't found guilty is because the evidence just wasn't strong enough... If they found Casey's fingerprint on the duct tape around the skull, that would have been strong evidence. They just didn't have evidence like that, and most of damning evidence was the Casey's behavior but then they had people saying she was a good mother. IDK... I think the prosecution jumped the gun and should have tried to get better evidence.
 
digsbe said:
This ruling infuriates me. It's almost like there is no sense of justice anymore. She was clearly guilty and I don't see how those idiots could find her innocent.
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Did you watch the trial?
 
SheWolf said:
This was just one trial.. I kind of don't think it's the norm. btw... did you watch most of the trial yourself? It seems like most people who watched the trail constantly thought the evidence was conflicting.

I think the reason she wasn't found guilty is because the evidence just wasn't strong enough... If they found Casey's fingerprint on the duct tape around the skull, that would have been strong evidence. They just didn't have evidence like that, and most of damning evidence was the Casey's behavior but then they had people saying she was a good mother. IDK... I think the prosecution jumped the gun and should have tried to get better evidence.
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No - I didn't watch, but I read many articles and YES things were conflicting left and right - to me it seemed as if they conflicted against her, not for her. . . such as her mother being at work but then claiming to be the one to have done the searches on chloroform and so on.
 
liblady said:
any thinking person knows that the casey anthony killed her daughter, purposely, imo. then, she partied. i hope both she and her parents are harrassed unrelentingly.
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That's a cruel thing to wish on her family... I think her family has paid enough. She basically accused her dad of being a pedophile and abusing her, they lost Caylee, and they have lost their privacy. I think her family has suffered enough for being presumed innocent and not even being suspect. Whatever Casey did, her family isn't responsible for nor should they pay for her sins.
 
Wake said:
Look at how she giggles.

Seriously, someone's going to kill her.

She better hide.
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WTF... You want to kill her, because you think that's the punishment she deserves. I suppose you'd kill yourself if you did kill her, right? What would make your decision to murder somebody better than hers?
 
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