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    Re: Casey Anthony Trial: Jury Reaches Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Oddly - just as many have agreed that someone was guilty beyond a reasonable doubt - and turns out they were completely innocent and let loose from death row years later.
    An oddly enough, every time that has happened, it was because due process was somehow denied to the defendant in the original trial because of the prosecutors coercing witnesses to give false testimony and ID's, buried exculpatory evidence, etc
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    Re: Casey Anthony Trial: Jury Reaches Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by Serenity View Post
    the jury did their job and they are being persecuted for it. Casey may well have committed this crime, but the State didn't prove their case. period. the jury made their decision based on the evidence they heard and not on their emotions. isn't that the sort of jury everyone would want if they were ever in a situation that required juror involvement? of course it is.

    i feel for all the jurors. what a ****ty position for them to be in. they must be wondering if justice will ever be served for little Caylee too.
    I was thinking about this last night as I watched a news anchor blaming the jury for the verdict. No wonder these people didn't want to talk to the press yesterday. They probably knew that so many people would be shocked, angered, and hostile regarding their verdict. I work when the trial is on, so I didn't get to watch it very often (the psychology is interesting to me, but they didn't cover it very often), but I did browse through some of the evidence that had been released over the course of the investigation. These jurors had absolutely nothing proven that pointed them directly at Casey except the 31 days. The state did not present a solid argument regarding those 31 days, so they only come across as suspicious. I feel for them. They made a tough decision and the best decision they could have made considering the state's case.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Trial: Jury Reaches Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    The jury did their job and they were there day in day out and they got instructions from the judge and came up with a verdict.

    As I just heard on Fox News we can have our opinions but we didn't see of hear all the evidence, and the Prosecution failed to convice the jusry and those 12 people who's opinions are the ones that count in the end, and we need to live with it, as we most of us did when OJ got off.
    The big difference is that with OJ there was a trail of blood and evidence. With this case we dont even know how she died. We do know THAT she died. I think the prosecution ****ed up by going after murder 1 charges. Im not a lawyer and havent slept in a Holiday Inn lately but Im pretty sure in order to pull off a murder 1 verdict you have to have more than some emotional appeal to convict because SOMETHING happened...

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    Re: Casey Anthony Trial: Jury Reaches Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    another thing: how the hell they ruled not guilty on the child abuse charge is unbelievable. the mere fact that the kid was missing for a month before she told anyone is, in itself, child abuse. your kid is missing and instead of telling someone, you make up a lie about a non-existant nanny and go out partying?
    Look at that objectively. Does that prove child neglect in and of itself, given the state definition of child neglect (what she was charged with):

    (f) Neglects the child. Within the context of the definition of "harm," the term "neglects the
    child" means that the parent or other person responsible for the child's welfare fails to supply the
    child with adequate food, clothing, shelter, or health care, although financially able to do so or
    although offered financial or other means to do so. However, a parent or legal custodian who, by
    reason of the legitimate practice of religious beliefs, does not provide specified medical
    treatment for a child may not be considered abusive or neglectful for that reason alone, but such
    an exception does not:
    1. Eliminate the requirement that such a case be reported to the department;
    2. Prevent the department from investigating such a case; or
    3. Preclude a court from ordering, when the health of the child requires it, the provision of
    medical services by a physician, as defined in this section, or treatment by a duly accredited
    practitioner who relies solely on spiritual means for healing in accordance with the tenets and
    practices of a well-recognized church or religious organization.
    (g) Exposes a child to a controlled substance or alcohol. Exposure to a controlled substance or
    alcohol is established by:
    1. A test, administered at birth, which indicated that the child's blood, urine, or meconium
    contained any amount of alcohol or a controlled substance or metabolites of such substances, the
    presence of which was not the result of medical treatment administered to the mother or the
    newborn infant; or
    2. Evidence of extensive, abusive, and chronic use of a controlled substance or alcohol by a
    parent when the child is demonstrably adversely affected by such usage.
    As used in this paragraph, the term "controlled substance" means prescription drugs not
    prescribed for the parent or not administered as prescribed and controlled substances as outlined
    in Schedule I or Schedule II of s. 893.03.
    (h) Uses mechanical devices, unreasonable restraints, or extended periods of isolation to control
    a child.
    (i) Engages in violent behavior that demonstrates a wanton disregard for the presence of a child
    and could reasonably result in serious injury to the child.
    (j) Negligently fails to protect a child in his or her care from inflicted physical, mental, or sexual
    injury caused by the acts of another.
    (k) Has allowed a child's sibling to die as a result of abuse, abandonment, or neglect.
    (l) Makes the child unavailable for the purpose of impeding or avoiding a protective
    investigation unless the court determines that the parent, legal custodian, or caregiver was fleeing
    from a situation involving domestic violence.
    (33) "Institutional child abuse or neglect" means situations of known or suspected child abuse or
    neglect in which the person allegedly perpetrating the child abuse or neglect is an employee of a
    private school, public or private day care center, residential home, institution, facility, or agency
    or any other person at such institution responsible for the child's care.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Trial: Jury Reaches Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    I am going to start out by stating a few facts.. (If anyone here was a member of the jury then please disregard this post..)

    Nobody here was on the jury..
    Nobody here saw the evidence they saw..
    Nobody here actually has to live with thisd verdict..

    Having that.. I think the people here that claim she is guilty is showing their ignorance.. You can't judgment on someone based on the tid bits the press choose to show us for ratings.. All the coverage that I saw potrayed her to be guilty..

    Since nobody here actually has the burdon of living with this verdict.. I don't see how any of us could or would dare to question thier judgement.. We don't have the insight they have nor the knowlege on the case.. 12 people voted unaminously that she was innocent.. It wasn't a hung jury, and they didn't deliberate that long..

    Reasonable doubt is simply any definable fact that says the accused could or might be innocent.. Nobody should be sentenced to life or death unless you are absolutey sure without any doubts..

    It is one thing to discuss this case, the evidence, who might have killed this little girl other than her mother..

    I am making no claim to her innocense or guilt.. I was not a jurist.. I respect the findings of the jury.. As I said in my last post.. I would rather a murderer be set free than someone who is innocent be wrongfully convicted..

    Typed on my phone.. Excuse typos..
    Thing is, there was at least enough doubt of her innocence. I am shocked that they found her not guilty, and this wasn't a mistrial. Shocked.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Trial: Jury Reaches Verdict

    the real shame is that the poor little girl isnt coming home.
    but

    It is, if nothing else, refreshing to know that mob rule mentality to convict,
    is protected by a jury of your peers
    I'M VOTING FOR THE WHITE GUY THIS TIME

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    Re: Casey Anthony Trial: Jury Reaches Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    An oddly enough, every time that has happened, it was because due process was somehow denied to the defendant in the original trial because of the prosecutors coercing witnesses to give false testimony and ID's, buried exculpatory evidence, etc
    We have a man here who was recently released after serving 20 years in prison. During the trial, the victim positively identified him as the perp. Recently, she wrote a letter to the governor emploring him to commute the prisoner's sentence because she had made up the crime to get back at the man on her mother's urging. The guy lost 20 years of his life based on victim testimony from somebody who was ever truly a victim. That is a greater miscarriage of justice than Casey going free, IMO.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Trial: Jury Reaches Verdict

    I don't know if it is true or not, but a lawyer has told me that there is no law which makes not reporting your missing child a crime.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Trial: Jury Reaches Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I don't know if it is true or not, but a lawyer has told me that there is no law which makes not reporting your missing child a crime.
    As far as I know, it isn't illegal...that'd be a hard crime to track. What's the time-frame? If the child is going on a weekend trip and you don't report until Tuesday, did you violate the law? If you're told the child is safe with a family member you trust, when in reality something bad has happened, did you violate the law?
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    Re: Casey Anthony Trial: Jury Reaches Verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    As far as I know, it isn't illegal...that'd be a hard crime to track. What's the time-frame? If the child is going on a weekend trip and you don't report until Tuesday, did you violate the law? If you're told the child is safe with a family member you trust, when in reality something bad has happened, did you violate the law?
    I think those issues could be addressed by making it a requirement to report when the circumstances are such that "a reasonable person would have reason to believe the child may havebeen harmed" or something similar. It's known in legal circles as the "Reasonable Man Standard"
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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