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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Are you actually advocating for a flat tax AGAIN?
    yeah so ten people who pay no taxes cannot elect someone to raise the taxes on the one guy who funds all of the government services for that ten.

    being a government employee you don't like that I am sure. But we who pay far more than we use do

    and we love the fact that it prevents ten non taxpayers from suffering nothing when they want more tax hikes



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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Yeah, on what, Boehner's tobacco subsidies? Who gives a ****. Those having nothing to do with our debt crisis. Democrats, stop trying to look like you are devoted to cutting spending by cutting low income heating assistance. Republicans, stop thinking the world is ending because you are voting to end corn subsidies.
    We will put you down as one of the reasons for the problem rather than someone supporting a real solution which means real spending cuts



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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Its not hyperbolic..
    comparing being torn from your family in Africa, starved on a slave-ship for weeks or months, then sold like a piece of meat into a lifetime of hard labor with brutality and cruelty........ to paying an extra 3% in Federal income tax, is NOT hyperbole???


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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    comparing being torn from your family in Africa, starved on a slave-ship for weeks or months, then sold like a piece of meat into a lifetime of hard labor with brutality and cruelty........ to paying an extra 3% in Federal income tax, is NOT hyperbole???

    Yes, actually. It is, of course. It's a form of Godwinism, I should think.

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    We will put you down as one of the reasons for the problem rather than someone supporting a real solution which means real spending cuts
    Real spending cuts are cutting entitlements, taking a hard look at defense spending (like the stuff our corrupt congressmen, on both sides of the aisle, appropriate when the DoD doesn't even want/need it) killing subsidies and loopholes, and lowering tax rates. Real spending cuts are not cutting discretionary spending and making federal agencies work with even less. How much of the federal budget pie is discretionary spending again???? 12-16%, fluctuating. That is NOTHING. Can some of it be cut, sure. Is it going to make a difference? NO. They are easy little things that can be cut so the politicians can go home and say they are budget hawks.

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    We will put you down as one of the reasons for the problem rather than someone supporting a real solution which means real spending cuts
    So?? If Bush had a budget surplus and cut taxes.. And now we have a deficit, why isn't restoring Clinton levels of taxes the right thing to do??

    I mean?? We lost over 8 million jobs.. So you can't claim it is the jobs.. What is the big deal here with making the rich pay their fair share?? Are you all on the take or something?? Do you enjoy having your lips firmly planted on the butts of big oil and big business??

    Your solution isn't the real solution and never will be.. As long as you deny the reason we got into this mess in the first place.. Tax cuts and increase spending.. Meaning the wars.. So we need to cut spending on defense and raise taxes.. Anyone with gradeschool math could tell you that..

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    So?? If Bush had a budget surplus and cut taxes.. And now we have a deficit, why isn't restoring Clinton levels of taxes the right thing to do??

    I mean?? We lost over 8 million jobs.. So you can't claim it is the jobs.. What is the big deal here with making the rich pay their fair share?? Are you all on the take or something?? Do you enjoy having your lips firmly planted on the butts of big oil and big business??

    Your solution isn't the real solution and never will be.. As long as you deny the reason we got into this mess in the first place.. Tax cuts and increase spending.. Meaning the wars.. So we need to cut spending on defense and raise taxes.. Anyone with gradeschool math could tell you that..
    Under Bush, 3 million jobs created. Clinton, 23 million. Making the wealthy pay more really does destroy the economy right??

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    We will put you down as one of the reasons for the problem rather than someone supporting a real solution which means real spending cuts
    who exactly, is "we"?

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    comparing being torn from your family in Africa, starved on a slave-ship for weeks or months, then sold like a piece of meat into a lifetime of hard labor with brutality and cruelty........ to paying an extra 3% in Federal income tax, is NOT hyperbole???

    stop the fibs

    its far more than 3%


    a 3% rate raise on a tax rate of 36% is more like a ten percent increase in the tax bill

    people who have saved and invested and retired from work are looking at a 100% increase in taxes or more if they have mainly dividend income. My uncle worked his butt off in the advertising business. He was one of the first people in television and did well. In 1979 he sold his business to take care of my aunt who was dying of smoking related cancer. he invested all of that -save for what he spent on experimental (and unsuccessful) cancer treatments. So at age 55 he was living off of dividend income.
    Some of that income was taxed twice-first at the corporate profit level then when it came to him. Obama and many of his followers want to raise taxes on dividends for someone like my late uncle from 15% to 39.6%

    do the math



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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Under Bush, 3 million jobs created. Clinton, 23 million. Making the wealthy pay more really does destroy the economy right??
    totally.

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