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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Yes he has paid more tax dollars than I have. Dollars is not the issue here. The issue is a fair burden. I have said this before in many other threads. A family is in the 15% bracket and earns 30k a year jointly. They pay what? 4 grand about? That is fair. Someone who earns 275 million a year pays 15% of their salary and pays like 40 mil in taxes. That is a tiny little piece of that income compared with taking 4 grand from a family earnign 30k a year.

    fair burden-what nonsense. He pays far more than he uses. He makes that money because he provides tons of value to others. You are engaging in the FROM EACH ACCORDING TO THEIR ABILITY bull poop

    fair value is far more relevant. He doesn't get a million times or 100K times more value from government services than you do. In fact since you are paid by tax dollars you get far more value from government services than he does



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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    citizen's arrest of all 535 members of Congress?
    Wrong the GOP wants to cut spending

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Thunder: You're not helping. The argument for a leftist system of taxation is not that the richest people owe something to society...
    if the law says you owe taxes, then you owe taxes.

    this guy is arguing that if someone does not pay his taxes, that have been approved by our govt., and the IRS siezes some of his money to pay his debts, this is theft.

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Wrong the GOP wants to cut spending
    yeah, NOW they do.

    how about 5 years ago???

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Thunder: You're not helping. The argument for a leftist system of taxation is not that the richest people owe something to society, it's that it's beneficial for there to be a strong safety next. I'm considered to be a Liberal who is "well off". I don't own anything to society. If anything, every single dollar I've ever made came from my own ambition. Society didn't give me my artistic talents or paid my bills. I do. I am more than willing to give part of my salary to those who need it more than me, however, I don't "owe" anything to them or society. If anything, it's the other way around.
    Damn Hatuey, that is one of the smartest posts I have ever seen on this board. Its brilliant.

    that's a good one to sign off on

    Bravo



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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Thunder: You're not helping. The argument for a leftist system of taxation is not that the richest people owe something to society, it's that it's beneficial for there to be a strong safety next. I'm considered to be a Liberal who is "well off". I don't owe anything to society. If anything, every single dollar I've ever made came from my own ambition. Society didn't give me my artistic talents or paid my bills. I do. I am more than willing to give part of my salary to those who need it more than me, however, I don't "owe" anything to them or society. If anything, it's the other way around.
    Well said!!!
    It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion.
    "Wealth of Nations," Book V, Chapter II, Part II, Article I, pg.911

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Legal theft is not against the law that is why it is legal
    again, internet debate forum members don't get to decide what constitutes "theft".

    society does. and through our representatives, NO state in the Union has branded the IRS garnishing wages or seizing assets to make up for unpaid taxes, as "theft".

    sorry. case closed.

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    it is a needed "program". or does 35 million Americans without health-insurance not concern you?

    oh, right. I guess not.

    It is not needed, it is a scam and will cost much more than it will benefit anyone. People need to set priorities. If they do not have insurance it is not a priority. I buy mine I do not get insurance from my employer.

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It is not needed, it is a scam and will cost much more than it will benefit anyone. People need to set priorities. If they do not have insurance it is not a priority. I buy mine I do not get insurance from my employer.
    Study: 45,000 Uninsured Die a Year - CBS News

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Thunder:

    You're not helping. The argument for a leftist system of taxation is not that the richest people owe something to society, it's that it's beneficial for there to be a strong safety next. I'm considered to be a Liberal who is "well off". I don't owe anything to society. If anything, every single dollar I've ever made came from my own ambition. Society didn't give me my artistic talents or paid my bills. I did. I am more than willing to give part of my salary to those who need it more than me, however, I don't "owe" anything to them or society. If anything, it's the other way around.

    Conservatives who don't agree with taxation in its present form call it "theft" because it is to an extent. It's not theft for the government to take money in order to fund street construction, infrastructure, certain safety programs. It's ridiculous for the government to tax millions in order to fund "free condom" drives. Theft is in the eye of the beholder. Some things which we are taxed for are theft, others, just common sense.
    Solid. You actually made another logical connection for my mental puzzle.

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