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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    if we don't have enough money to pay for programs we think are in the nation's interest, then we have a revenue problem.
    No we have a spending problem. Like Obamacare that is not a needed program and will cost us trillions

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Wrong. Government raising taxes and not balancing the budget or stopping the rising deficit is legal theft

    Where is that codified?

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    if we don't have enough money to pay for programs we think are in the nation's interest, then we have a revenue problem.
    that is the problem--way too many voters who are addicted to those programs demanding others continue to be taxed to pay more and more and more



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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Then I will personally arrest every member of the democratic caucus and say I am doing this under the authority of ptif219 because he says not balancing the budget is legal theft.
    citizen's arrest of all 535 members of Congress?

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    he says that garnishing wages of someone who doesn't pay his taxes, is theft.

    I am pointing out that govt. will take a lot of things away from you, if you don't pay your bills or tickets.

    and certainly, these are not theft.
    When they keep increasing it to keep spending it is. Wealth redistribution is not in the constitution

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Thunder:

    You're not helping. The argument for a leftist system of taxation is not that the richest people owe something to society, it's that it's beneficial for there to be a strong safety next. I'm considered to be a Liberal who is "well off". I don't owe anything to society. If anything, every single dollar I've ever made came from my own ambition. Society didn't give me my artistic talents or paid my bills. I did. I am more than willing to give part of my salary to those who need it more than me, however, I don't "owe" anything to them or society. If anything, it's the other way around.

    Conservatives who don't agree with taxation in its present form call it "theft" because it is to an extent. It's not theft for the government to take money in order to fund street construction, infrastructure, certain safety programs. It's ridiculous for the government to tax millions in order to fund "free condom" drives. Theft is in the eye of the beholder. Some things which we are taxed for are theft, others, just common sense.
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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Like Obamacare that is not a needed program and will cost us trillions
    it is a needed "program". or does 35 million Americans without health-insurance not concern you?

    oh, right. I guess not.

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    No we have a spending problem. Like Obamacare that is not a needed program and will cost us trillions
    Really??? http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/113xx/doc...dReconProp.pdf

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    legal theft huh?

    under what Federal law?

    under what state law?

    under what city law?

    under what international law?
    Legal theft is not against the law that is why it is legal

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    it is a needed "program". or does 35 million Americans without health-insurance not concern you?

    oh, right. I guess not.

    Or the 45k a year who die because they don't have healthcare? Study: 45,000 Uninsured Die a Year - CBS News

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