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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    how many jobs were created during Clinton's 8 years?

    how much did taxes go up for the wealthy during those 8 years?

    sorry my friend, but your idea that raising taxes kills job growth, simply doesn't stand up to reality.
    You had the dot com bubble when it burst those jobs meant nothing

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What would those be?

    We could open up domestic drilling. That's a helluva revenue raiser. You know, people workin', makin' money and stuff.

    Oh wait, we're not really interested in actually generating tax revenue, we just want to raise taxes.
    Except that since Obama took office domestic drilling has been up 20% and high paying energy jobs as a whole have risen the past 2 years. Just look at Texas, Ohio, Kentucky, West Virgina or North Carolina.
    "We’re going to close the unproductive tax loopholes that allow some of the truly wealthy to avoid paying their fair share. In theory, some of those loopholes were understandable, but in practice they sometimes made it possible for millionaires to pay nothing, while a bus driver was paying ten percent of his salary, and that’s crazy." -Reagan

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    I never said such a thing, and you know it. Please don't lie about my comments.
    I said I wrote off as ignorant those who claimed the richest 1-5% of tax payers don't pay their fair share

    not the 47% etc-just those who claimed that the top tax payers did not pay their fair share

    here was your response
    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so you're writing off 47% of the American people as ignorant?

    huh.
    so you obviously distorted what I had said

    oh btw have you figured out your math error

    if i pay 36 cents of taxes on my last dollar earned and I then have to pay 40C of taxes on my next dollar that is not a 3% increase in my taxes its a bit more than a 10% increase because 4 is what percent of 36?



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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    theft is illegal. if someone takes something from you that you owe, and society recognizes that this was the right thing to do, then its not theft.

    if you don't pay your parking tickets, the County Sheriff will sieze your car. is this theft?

    certainly not.

    if you don't pay your mortgage, the bank will foreclose, and the County Sheriff will sieze your home. is this theft?

    certainly not.
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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Increasing tax is not the problem spending is the problem
    if we don't have enough money to pay for programs we think are in the nation's interest, then we have a revenue problem.

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    theft is illegal. if someone takes something from you that you owe, and society recognizes that this was the right thing to do, then its not theft.

    if you don't pay your parking tickets, the County Sheriff will sieze your car. is this theft?

    certainly not.

    if you don't pay your mortgage, the bank will foreclose, and the County Sheriff will sieze your home. is this theft?

    certainly not.
    Wrong. Government raising taxes and not balancing the budget or stopping the rising deficit is legal theft

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    ah that's a start. but dem propaganda and tax schemes place me and most of the others in the top one percent in the same tax class as Gates. But even if Buffett only pays 18% on the billion or whatever he makes in a year he has paid far far more tax dollars than you have. To say he hasn't paid his fair share fails on most grounds of objective fairness.

    Yes he has paid more tax dollars than I have. Dollars is not the issue here. The issue is a fair burden. I have said this before in many other threads. A family is in the 15% bracket and earns 30k a year jointly. They pay what? 4 grand about? That is fair. Someone who earns 275 million a year pays 15% of their salary and pays like 40 mil in taxes. That is a tiny little piece of that income compared with taking 4 grand from a family earnign 30k a year.

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Stop. You're not helping.
    he says that garnishing wages of someone who doesn't pay his taxes, is theft.

    I am pointing out that govt. will take a lot of things away from you, if you don't pay your bills or tickets.

    and certainly, these are not theft.

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Wrong. Government raising taxes and not balancing the budget or stopping the rising deficit is legal theft
    Then I will personally arrest every member of the democratic caucus and say I am doing this under the authority of ptif219 because he says not balancing the budget is legal theft.

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Wrong. Government raising taxes and not balancing the budget or stopping the rising deficit is legal theft
    legal theft huh?

    under what Federal law?

    under what state law?

    under what city law?

    under what international law?

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