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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    Don't be confused here.. Descretionary spending or SS and Medicare are small potatos when it comes to the budget.. They are both paid with their own tax and are not usually even counted on the main budget unless it is to fund something extra.. The same reason the post office isn't on the budget.. The pust office is also self funded.. So cutting Medicare and SS will also do nothing.. Check your own pay stub if you don't believe me..
    But that self funding is not going to exist anymore in a few years. I believe SS is dying in 36 and Medicare will be done in 22. The point is if these programs are reformed and scaled back on the deficit would slowly decrease.

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    Policy Basics: Where Do Our Federal Tax Dollars Go? — Center on Budget and Policy Priorities

    Social Security: Another 20 percent of the budget, or $707 billion, paid for Social Security, which provided retirement benefits averaging $1,175 per month to 34.6 million retired workers in December 2010. Social Security also provided benefits to 2.9 million spouses and children of retired workers, 6.4 million surviving children and spouses of deceased workers, and 10.2 million disabled workers and their eligible dependents in December 2010.
    Medicare, Medicaid, and CHIP: Three health insurance programs — Medicare, Medicaid, and the Children’s Health Insurance Program (CHIP) — together accounted for 21 percent of the budget in 2010, or $732 billion. Nearly two-thirds of this amount, or $452 billion, went to Medicare, which provides health coverage to around 47 million people who are over the age of 65 or have disabilities. The remainder of this category funds Medicaid and CHIP, which in a typical month in 2010 will provide health care or long-term care to about 60 million low-income children, parents, elderly people, and people with disabilities. Both Medicaid and CHIP require matching payments from the states.
    Also check this:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...s/budget-2010/
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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    what's 38% minus 35%?

    3%.
    does someone else want to explain this idiotic math error

    if you pay a 36% tax rate and that rate is increased to 39.6% that is about a 10% increase in the amount of money taken from your next dollar. NOT A 3% increase. figure it out and understand why you just made a rather gaping error



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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    The Democrats are the police?

    wow, learning a lot tonight.

    The government is the police. If you do not pay taxes the IRS will take it by force

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I write off as ignorant anyone who claims that a group that makes 22% of the income and does not own all of the property yet pays 40% of the federal income tax and almost all the death tax is not paying its fair share. That just defies any sort of intellectual honesty..
    so you're writing off 47% of the American people as ignorant?

    huh.

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The government is the police. If you do not pay taxes the IRS will take it by force
    no, the government is not the "police".

    I don't know where you're coming up with this stuff.

    if you do not pay your Federal income taxes, the IRS will garnish your wages and take what you owe.

    its the law, as it should be. you do respect the law, do you not?

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Under Bush, 3 million jobs created. Clinton, 23 million. Making the wealthy pay more really does destroy the economy right??
    Link?? And also provide numbers that were private jobs and not government.. We all know Bush grew the government.. The Department of Homeland Security will account for much of those new government jobs..

    You also don't grow unemployment to almost 9% and then claim he created jobs.. One of those claims is false.. I'll let you decide which one you want to prove right or wrong..

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The government is the police. If you do not pay taxes the IRS will take it by force
    So what? Don't see any issue with that. Pay your taxes.

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so you're writing off 47% of the American people as ignorant?

    huh.
    You mean the same 47% that do not pay income tax?

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so you're writing off 47% of the American people as ignorant?

    huh.
    STRAWMAN ALERT

    Can you prove that all of those people believe that nonsense?



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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    Link?? And also provide numbers that were private jobs and not government.. We all know Bush grew the government.. The Department of Homeland Security will account for much of those new government jobs..

    You also don't grow unemployment to almost 9% and then claim he created jobs.. One of those claims is false.. I'll let you decide which one you want to prove right or wrong..
    I posted the link on another page but here it is again. Bush On Jobs: The Worst Track Record On Record - Real Time Economics - WSJ

    DHS actually was not all new gov jobs. Most of DHS is all components transferred from other cabinet departments. For example INS special agents became ICE special agents. INS immigration employees because USCIS employees. Coast guard which was in the DoT moved to DHS.

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