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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    taxes are not theft. not unless you are a Libertarian/Militia/Survivalist/Freemen-on-the-land kinda guy.
    They are. Wealth redistribution which is what democrats do is theft. We should not be 14 trillion in debt. If we raise the debt ceiling the democrats will just keep spending and wanting more of our hard earned money.

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    who exactly, is "we"?
    Those who matter



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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Gargantuan View Post
    Real spending cuts are cutting entitlements, taking a hard look at defense spending (like the stuff our corrupt congressmen, on both sides of the aisle, appropriate when the DoD doesn't even want/need it) killing subsidies and loopholes, and lowering tax rates. Real spending cuts are not cutting discretionary spending and making federal agencies work with even less. How much of the federal budget pie is discretionary spending again???? 12-16%, fluctuating. That is NOTHING. Can some of it be cut, sure. Is it going to make a difference? NO. They are easy little things that can be cut so the politicians can go home and say they are budget hawks.
    Don't be confused here.. Descretionary spending or SS and Medicare are small potatos when it comes to the budget.. They are both paid with their own tax and are not usually even counted on the main budget unless it is to fund something extra.. The same reason the post office isn't on the budget.. The pust office is also self funded.. So cutting Medicare and SS will also do nothing.. Check your own pay stub if you don't believe me..

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    its all over the news my friend. I shouldn't have to do this work for ya.
    If you claim it then show it. If it is all over the news it should only take you a minute

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    stop the fibs

    its far more than 3%
    what's 38% minus 35%?

    3%.

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    They are. Wealth redistribution which is what democrats do is theft.
    so call the police.

    funny thing is, under no state criminal code, are taxes considered theft. not even in the most Libertarian state, are taxes considered theft.
    Last edited by Thunder; 07-04-11 at 01:28 AM.

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so call the police.
    Thats the problem they are the police

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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Thats the problem they are the police
    The Democrats are the police?

    wow, learning a lot tonight.


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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonMyst View Post
    So?? If Bush had a budget surplus and cut taxes.. And now we have a deficit, why isn't restoring Clinton levels of taxes the right thing to do??

    I mean?? We lost over 8 million jobs.. So you can't claim it is the jobs.. What is the big deal here with making the rich pay their fair share?? Are you all on the take or something?? Do you enjoy having your lips firmly planted on the butts of big oil and big business??

    Your solution isn't the real solution and never will be.. As long as you deny the reason we got into this mess in the first place.. Tax cuts and increase spending.. Meaning the wars.. So we need to cut spending on defense and raise taxes.. Anyone with gradeschool math could tell you that..
    I write off as ignorant anyone who claims that a group that makes 22% of the income and does not own all of the property yet pays 40% of the federal income tax and almost all the death tax is not paying its fair share. That just defies any sort of intellectual honesty

    if fairness is based on a group's share of the income the top one ,two and five percent pay far more than their fair share

    if fairness is based on how much government services the top one two or five percent use, that group pays far more than their fair share

    if fairness is based on the value of services received from the government, that group pays far more than the value it gets

    those who pay no income tax pay far less than their fair share based on any of those three objective standards

    and since only about 2% of the voters face a death tax, 98% of the voters don't pay their fair share and those 2% pay far far more than their fair share

    If you want to whine that since the rich have more money and less votes it makes political sense to soak them, that at least is intellectually honest

    to claim that the rich don't pay their fair share relegates you not being taken seriously with me



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    Re: Republicans Say They’re Open to ‘Revenue Raisers’

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    The Democrats are the police?

    wow, learning a lot tonight.

    Hope there's not a pop quiz. I've missed most of it.

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