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    Re: California Marines Accused of Sham Marriages for Money

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    Here is the problem with it as it relates to this story:

    The Corps subsidizes a portion of a marine’s housing expenses if the marine lives off base. The Marine can also choose to live on base but they get no housing subsidies.

    What these marines and civilian did is they told the Corps that marines were living in housing they weren’t actually living in and scammed the Corps for around $75,000, according to the article, because the Corps was paying for 3 marines housing where only 1 marine lived.
    actually the marines were not living on post and thus qualified for a housing allowance because they had entered into a marriage contract
    that marriage contract is required to receive a housing allowance
    they were entitled to that housing allowance because (a) they were married and (b) they were not residing in on post quarters

    no one has shown me where a married couple is required to live together
    until that becomes a requirement, they did nothing wrong ... other than fall on their sword and admit they committed fraud. they should have instead compelled the authorities to have proven they violated any law
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    Re: California Marines Accused of Sham Marriages for Money

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    actually the marines were not living on post and thus qualified for a housing allowance because they had entered into a marriage contract
    that marriage contract is required to receive a housing allowance
    they were entitled to that housing allowance because (a) they were married and (b) they were not residing in on post quarters

    no one has shown me where a married couple is required to live together
    until that becomes a requirement, they did nothing wrong ... other than fall on their sword and admit they committed fraud. they should have instead compelled the authorities to have proven they violated any law
    I think in both military law and civilian law, there are specific rules regarding sham marriages. Sham marriages are essentially contracts that are entered into PURELY for the sake of gaining financial benefits (or other benefits, like citizenship). In this case, it was used to gain a housing allowance, so Boop is right.
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    Re: California Marines Accused of Sham Marriages for Money

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I think in both military law and civilian law, there are specific rules regarding sham marriages. Sham marriages are essentially contracts that are entered into PURELY for the sake of gaining financial benefits (or other benefits, like citizenship). In this case, it was used to gain a housing allowance, so Boop is right.
    had they not confessed how would it have been proven they entered into a sham marriage
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    Re: California Marines Accused of Sham Marriages for Money

    Quote Originally Posted by GPS_Flex View Post
    California Marines Accused of Sham Marriages for Money


    I was originally opposed to the repeal of DADT because I was worried that the military would suffer additional burdens in the form of lawsuits and requirements of special treatment for gay or lesbian members.

    I changed my position on the issue when many of you made clear that lawsuits against the military for discrimination etc. are not allowed under current law. With that in mind, I would like to know if any of you now think the individuals in this story should get special treatment and not be charged with a crime.
    Forced to enter a sham marriage? Nobody put a gun to their head and order them to engage in a sham marriage, did they? The law is the law, and this couple should be prosecuted for fraud.
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