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    Re: Obama Bypassing Congress on Debt Limit is 'Crazy Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by krickitt View Post
    LOL!! I would, too, if I didn't have news links backing up most of what he says. He is OFTEN right.
    Beck is pretty clever. It's not so much that he lies, but rather that he presents such an absurd interpretation of factual events that he diverges significantly from reality.
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    Re: Obama Bypassing Congress on Debt Limit is 'Crazy Talk'

    It all depends on who you listen to about whether or not we will default. Many economists say we do not have to default on debt if the debt ceiling is not raised. Usually I hear people saying the Repubs are screaming "the sky is falling"... this time it is the Dems doing it.. There are several things people would like to impeach Obama for. I had this discussion elsewhere and reluctantly came to the conclusion that the focus should be on making sure he is not re-elected rather than trying to impeach him. That was before I read this, though. IF he does this I am jumping on the impeach him wagon.
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    Re: Obama Bypassing Congress on Debt Limit is 'Crazy Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Congress authorized the spending that incurring the obligations. To say now that they won't meet those obligations is the real crime.
    Fortunately the law and crimes aren’t decided based upon what feels right.

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Obama Bypassing Congress on Debt Limit is 'Crazy Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    If Obama can do it, he should.

    The republicans are playing games with the countries economic health for their own political purposes, it does not serve the nation.
    Looks like Obama is just as guilty of the accusations you level at Republicans. Would you be in favor of abolishing the entire Constitution while Obama and Geithner are at it or should we just act like it really is the law of the land until it the next time it becomes an inconvenience to the President’s agenda and political asperations?

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    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Obama Bypassing Congress on Debt Limit is 'Crazy Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Beck is pretty clever. It's not so much that he lies, but rather that he presents such an absurd interpretation of factual events that he diverges significantly from reality.
    I think this is a pretty accurate assessment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    It would seem that the constitution is just a god damn piece of paper, to be trotted out when expedient.

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    Re: Obama Bypassing Congress on Debt Limit is 'Crazy Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Chappy View Post
    Congress authorized the spending that incurring the obligations. To say now that they won't meet those obligations is the real crime.
    Obama authorized it when he signed the Bill

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    Re: Obama Bypassing Congress on Debt Limit is 'Crazy Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    If Obama can do it, he should.

    The republicans are playing games with the countries economic health for their own political purposes, it does not serve the nation.
    So you want the constitution gone and a dictator Obama ?

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    Re: Obama Bypassing Congress on Debt Limit is 'Crazy Talk'

    How the F*** could ANYONE even consider using the 14th this way is just....staggering. Now I don't know if Obama has actually considered this or even mentioned that he is even slightly considering this (note that the article actually doesn't say that Obama is)...but if he is this is even more reason to get that s.o.b out of the POTUS chair.

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    Re: Obama Bypassing Congress on Debt Limit is 'Crazy Talk'

    Let's see here:

    1) Congress authorized a certain amount of spending.
    2) Congress authorized a certain amount of taxes to be collected.
    3) Congress prohibited the Treasury from borrowing money to make up the difference.

    It doesn't take a PhD in Economics to see that statements 1, 2, and 3 are incompatible. Since Congress has passed contradictory laws, the executive branch will have to pick and choose which laws get enforced. It's hardly an ideal situation, but under the circumstances I can't say I blame Obama. There is no particular legal reason why #3 should take priority over #1, since Congress passed them BOTH with equal legitimacy and with equal force of the law.
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    Re: Obama Bypassing Congress on Debt Limit is 'Crazy Talk'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Let's see here:

    1) Congress authorized a certain amount of spending.
    2) Congress authorized a certain amount of taxes to be collected.
    3) Congress prohibited the Treasury from borrowing money to make up the difference.

    It doesn't take a PhD in Economics to see that statements 1, 2, and 3 are incompatible. Since Congress has passed contradictory laws, the executive branch will have to pick and choose which laws get enforced. It's hardly an ideal situation, but under the circumstances I can't say I blame Obama. There is no particular legal reason why #3 should take priority over #1, since Congress signed them BOTH into law with equal legitimacy and with equal force of the law.
    The president does not have the authority to pick and choose which laws to follow.
    He is not a dictator that is above the law.
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