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    Re: U.N. asks Texas to commute Mexican's death sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    See Medellín v. Texas
    Saw it... inexplicable decision given the clarity of Article VI of the US Constitution.

    The same Conservatives who insisted Pakistan abide by the Vienna Convention are now excusing its violation by the US. The US is in violation of its treaty obligations and potentially puts Americans overseas at risk...
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    Re: U.N. asks Texas to commute Mexican's death sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof. Peabody View Post
    Did the convicted man ask? Can he prove it? What about his lawyer? Did he ask? If he did ask or told his lawyer he did, why didn't his lawyer go public with the request when it wasn't filled?
    Was he informed of his right? U.S. citizens are required to be informed of their rights via the Miranda Warning. This treaty provides such rights for foreign nationals. Nice try though...
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    Re: U.N. asks Texas to commute Mexican's death sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by krickitt View Post
    ExCUSE me??? I'm from Texas. We are tough on crime. Want to rape and murder?? Don't do it in Texas. Don't like the laws? Change them, then, if you can. The "blood thirsty monkeys" in Texas will kill you if you kill our children. Best to pass through CA, with cheers, don't do it in TX. I live in AZ now, and we don't like rapists or murderers or drug and human smugglers from foreign countries, either. Don't want to pay the price, pass right on through and find some really liberal place to rape and murder.
    So, Texas doesn't have to follow the laws, but expects people within the state to follow the laws. Hypocrisy much...
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    Re: U.N. asks Texas to commute Mexican's death sentence

    Medellin v TX. Take it up with them, not me.
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    Re: U.N. asks Texas to commute Mexican's death sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by krickitt View Post
    Medellin v TX. Take it up with them, not me.
    But you seem to support texas in this case... based on Article VI of the Constitution, it seems like a horrible ruling. Still, Texas COULD take the high road and abide by the provisions of the treaty anyhow... US looks like hypocrites...
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    Re: U.N. asks Texas to commute Mexican's death sentence

    You could say that... or you could say there is SCOTUS precedent for killing this bad guy, if I read it right. If it was my kid murdered I would not want delays. But I'm a Texan.
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    Re: U.N. asks Texas to commute Mexican's death sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by krickitt View Post
    You could say that... or you could say there is SCOTUS precedent for killing this bad guy, if I read it right. If it was my kid murdered I would not want delays. But I'm a Texan.
    Hey, I am not defending this cretin, I am defending the rule of law and the international obligations the US voluntarily entered into and uses to protect the rights of Americans overseas...
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    Re: U.N. asks Texas to commute Mexican's death sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    U.N. asks Texas to commute Mexican's death sentence | Reuters

    On several fronts this is an interesting story. First we have the UN, and Mexico bitterly complaining this murderer was not aware of his "rights" nor told about them. I fail to grasp what talking to the Mexican consulate would do to change the fact. I'd say this is a failure of Mexico to educate their citizens as to their "rights" and they should look to changing their Education system.

    While his death will not return the life of his victim, it will be Justice served.
    nope. **** him. this ain't even close to the miranda case. all rapists should eat **** and die.
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    Re: U.N. asks Texas to commute Mexican's death sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    No, Texans are like blood thirsty monkeys who will execute anybody simply on emotion..... and they smell bad.
    So executing murders who have had a fair trial makes one a terrorist and a smelly blood thirsty monkey?

    I would not call executing murders executing anybody simply on emotion.
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    Re: U.N. asks Texas to commute Mexican's death sentence

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Saw it... inexplicable decision given the clarity of Article VI of the US Constitution.

    The same Conservatives who insisted Pakistan abide by the Vienna Convention are now excusing its violation by the US.
    The people you should blame for this is the clowns in congress who did not create legislation to implement it. Since congress did not enact statutes to implement and nor was the treaty self executing it we are not in violation of it. Pakistan may have enacted laws to implement the treaty in their country, we do not know.

    The US is in violation of its treaty obligations and potentially puts Americans overseas at risk...
    The only Americans overseas that are at risk are those retarded enough to visit countries that are dictatorships. And regardless of treaties are not going to give two ****s about some treaty.
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