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    Re: President Obama Takes a Break at Camp David

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Have you forgotten the Obama record which is why he won't meet with anyone? You claimed that Obama submitted a budget, I responded. TARP was spent in fiscal year 2009 and most of it has been repaid. It had nothing to do with the 2010 budget. Better do a little research on your own and stop buying leftwing rhetoric. Bush spent 350 billion of TARP in October-December 2009 and left 350 billion to Obama which he used to take over GM/Chrysler in 2009, and provide support for Freddie/Fannie/AIG. Show me what part of the 2010 budget was TARP since the total TARP fund was 700 billion?

    0bama record, 14.7 officially unemployed with 15.8% total unemployment, 4 trillion added to the debt, double digit misery index, 1.8% GDP growth, record budgets, no leadership skills at all, 29 fund raisers, 76 rounds of golf. Yes, that is leadership and a record to be proud of.
    Conservatives posts have become so befuddled, they don't recognize that Obama's record has nothing to do with the republicans refusal to negotiate. I even pointed out how this discussion is about presidential vacations, with no effect
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    Re: President Obama Takes a Break at Camp David

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Conservative has become so befuddled, he doesn't realize that Obama's record has nothing to do with the republicans refusal to negotiate.
    When Republicans invite the President to the table that is an attempt to negotiate. Where do you get your information that the Republicans don't want to negotiate. Telling them that it is the liberal way or the highway isn't negotiation and you have yet to respond to the reality that Obama's budget was voted down 95-0 and he now wants to cut 100 billion off a record budget which is still deficit spending.

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    Re: President Obama Takes a Break at Camp David

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    When Republicans invite the President to the table that is an attempt to negotiate.
    They didnt invite the president to a table or to negotiate. They invited the president to listen to the republicans explain why they won't compromise

    Where do you get your information that the Republicans don't want to negotiate.
    From the republicans
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    Re: President Obama Takes a Break at Camp David

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    They didnt invite the president to a table or to negotiate. They invited the president to listen to the republicans explain why they won't compromise



    From the republicans
    Explaining is part of negotiation

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    Re: President Obama Takes a Break at Camp David

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Explaining is part of negotiation
    Not if it is explaining why you won't.

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    Re: President Obama Takes a Break at Camp David

    Seriously...

    Bush was President for 8 years.. that is about 2920 days.

    He spent 487 days at Camp David, and 490 days at his Texas ranch.

    That leaves 1943 days in the White House, which is not even accurate because that includes official state visits and campaign visits and other visits.

    And now the conservatives are complaining that Obama goes to Camp David with his family.... when Obama has a full 2 years of vacation time out of his 8 years in office, then we can talk about bashing him.
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    Re: President Obama Takes a Break at Camp David

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Explaining is part of negotiation
    Repubs explaining why they refuse to compromise is not negotiation.

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    Re: President Obama Takes a Break at Camp David

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Explaining is part of negotiation
    The Republicans explaining why they aren't going to compromise is not negotiation.

    Don't know where you get your definition of negotiation.

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    Re: President Obama Takes a Break at Camp David

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    The Republicans explaining why they aren't going to compromise is not negotiation.

    Don't know where you get your definition of negotiation.
    I can't say for sure, but maybe they use this

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    Re: President Obama Takes a Break at Camp David

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Umm, if you're going to insist that a president should not take time off during a crisis, then what bush did (he was a president, remember?) during a crisis is relevant to show the partisan hypocrisy of the rightwing whiners
    Bush left office in January of 2009. It's time you live in the present.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I'll do that when you post links for everything you've said.
    So it's bull****. Thanks for admitting it.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    So you admit that bush* did it!!!
    I admit nothing... Bush left office in January of 2009. It's time you live in the present.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha
    And still, you refuse to criticize it. Instead, you're defending bush* for doing the same thing!!!
    Bush left office in January of 2009. It's time you live in the present.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha
    Nope, that's not partisanship.
    I have criticized Bush for that when he was in office... however, Bush left office in January of 2009. It's time you live in the present.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha
    What "FED"? The Federal Reserve, or the Federal govt, which you believe should do less, except when a democrat is president. Then, he should do MORE!!!
    He should do more to get us over the crisis. Then he should do less, in fact the FED (Federal Governement) should all do less.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha
    Not anymore. Pisses you off, right?
    Bush was horrible for the country. Why should that piss me off?

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha
    So you want the govt to do MORE, not less.
    Here are the directions again: "Re-read my previous post on the subject. Repeat."


    Quote Originally Posted by sangha
    I haven't said one word in defense of Obama. I have merely pointed to partisan hypocrisy of rightwingers who want the govt to do less, and Obama to do more.
    That's an outright lie. Your posts have ONLY defended Obama. Your tactic is to try and change the subject to Bush, which is a Progressive strategy. You've shown your cards and your slant a long time ago. You're the only one who still thinks or is playing otherwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha
    POTUS does not lead the House of Representatives. Guess who leads the House? (Hint: It aint a democrat)


    No one's claiming the POTUS leads the House... boring...



    So let's sum up.

    1. You're no independent - but a rabid progressive defending Obama in this thread
    2. Your tactic is to reverse every issue to Bush - thus avoiding any honest discussion
    3. You're words are only intellectually dishonest or at best, misleading, for the aforementioned partisan reasons
    4. The constant use of "wingnuts" and "rightwingers" identifies your purpose

    Dime a dozen pal... your boring, your intellectually dishonest and cannot discuss the topic at hand with any credibility, you make Alinsky type accusations, fail to back them up, and constantly name call.


    Wow... never seen this before.


    Let me know when you have something other than "Bush" to point to. Just in case you missed it:

    Bush left office in January of 2009. Time to live in the present.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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