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    Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as In Jeopardy

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/01/ny...y.html?_r=2&hp

    the alleged rape of the African hotel maid looks like a loser of a case for the DA



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    Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

    From The New York Times:

    The sexual assault case against Dominique Strauss-Kahn is on the verge of collapse as investigators have uncovered major holes in the credibility of the housekeeper who charged that he attacked her in his Manhattan hotel suite in May, according to two well-placed law enforcement officials.

    Although forensic tests found unambiguous evidence of a sexual encounter between Mr. Strauss-Kahn, a French politician, and the woman, prosecutors do not believe much of what the accuser has told them about the circumstances or about herself.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/01/ny...-jeopardy.html

    As previously noted, I believe Mr. Strauss-Kahn should be viewed with a presumption of innocence. If, in the end, Mr. Strauss-Kahn is acquitted or released on account of his accuser's false allegations, he will still have suffered the loss of his IMF position. It might not be too late for him to return to French politics, but the unresolved alleged incidents in France would have to be addressed on their own merits.

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    Re: Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/01/ny...-jeopardy.html

    As previously noted, I believe Mr. Strauss-Kahn should be viewed with a presumption of innocence. If, in the end, Mr. Strauss-Kahn is acquitted or released on account of his accuser's false allegations, he will still have suffered the loss of his IMF position. It might not be too late for him to return to French politics, but the unresolved alleged incidents in France would have to be addressed on their own merits.
    a most excellent point though I admit I enjoyed seeing a Eurosocialist in hot water.



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    Re: Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

    Well, maybe she is some kind of criminal. Maybe she was involved in setting him up. Or maybe she is some sort of criminal but he really did rape her and now he will walk for it. I read before that she and her family are Muslims, didn't think much of it, but when I hear about lies, lots of money floating around in those lies.. drugs, secret cell phones.. that makes me a little nervous, all things considered. I HOPE he didn't rape her now, because it sounds like he will walk away from this. Someone would have to be squeaky clean to beat his kind of money. Everything else I have read about her makes her sound like a saint. Interesting. We'll see.. He's still a creep, though, according to all the others that came forward. AHHH- lifestyles of power elite.......
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    Re: Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

    and the truth comes out.... but far too late for Strauss-Kahn.. his life is pretty much over.
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    Re: Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

    The sexual assault case against Dominique Strauss-Kahn is on the verge of collapse as investigators have uncovered major holes in the credibility of the housekeeper who charged that he attacked her in his Manhattan hotel suite in May, according to two well-placed law enforcement officials.

    Although forensic tests found unambiguous evidence of a sexual encounter between Mr. Strauss-Kahn, a French politician, and the woman, prosecutors do not believe much of what the accuser has told them about the circumstances or about herself.
    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    From The New York Times:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/01/ny...-jeopardy.html

    As previously noted, I believe Mr. Strauss-Kahn should be viewed with a presumption of innocence. If, in the end, Mr. Strauss-Kahn is acquitted or released on account of his accuser's false allegations, he will still have suffered the loss of his IMF position. It might not be too late for him to return to French politics, but the unresolved alleged incidents in France would have to be addressed on their own merits.
    Shouldn't the information about the "victim" have been easily available to the Police Detectives and the Prosecutors?

    This makes me wonder if there was not a rush to judgement or possibly even some political motive behind all this.

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    Re: Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Shouldn't the information about the "victim" have been easily available to the Police Detectives and the Prosecutors?
    "Easily" ... no. She is after all an immigrant from an African country. Information about people is not exactly lying around in such places. The only place they can get information is from her time in the US and that also takes time. As far as I understand it, it was suspect mobile phone calls and a conversation to a prison inmate after the arrest that first put the prosecutors on to her. I suspect if they investigated her in her African country then they would find interesting issues also.

    The real question is if they should have waited in arresting Strauss-Kahn till they had done their investigation of the accuser....

    This makes me wonder if there was not a rush to judgement
    LOL, of course there was. The whole American judicial system is a rush to judgement against any accused. Parading a person in handcuffs in front of the world media implies that the person is guilty and taints the case against the person especially in jury trials.

    or possibly even some political motive behind all this.
    Now that is the real question. Is it political as in American anti-French bias in the prosecutors office/political system or is it political attack from France to prevent him from running against Sarkozy.

    Considering that the woman is suspected of having lied and seen this case as a cash cow, then maybe she was bought.
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    Re: Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Now that is the real question. Is it political as in American anti-French bias in the prosecutors office/political system or is it political attack from France to prevent him from running against Sarkozy.

    Considering that the woman is suspected of having lied and seen this case as a cash cow, then maybe she was bought.
    It is interesting to note that Strauss-Kahn and Aubry had an agreement that they would not compete against each others during the socialist primary. Yesterday, she finally declared that she will run for the presidential election. And now, this.

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    Re: Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    "Easily" ... no. She is after all an immigrant from an African country. Information about people is not exactly lying around in such places. The only place they can get information is from her time in the US and that also takes time. As far as I understand it, it was suspect mobile phone calls and a conversation to a prison inmate after the arrest that first put the prosecutors on to her. I suspect if they investigated her in her African country then they would find interesting issues also.

    The real question is if they should have waited in arresting Strauss-Kahn till they had done their investigation of the accuser....

    LOL, of course there was. The whole American judicial system is a rush to judgement against any accused. Parading a person in handcuffs in front of the world media implies that the person is guilty and taints the case against the person especially in jury trials.

    Now that is the real question. Is it political as in American anti-French bias in the prosecutors office/political system or is it political attack from France to prevent him from running against Sarkozy.

    Considering that the woman is suspected of having lied and seen this case as a cash cow, then maybe she was bought.
    I have had extensive dealing with Police and the FBI, all from the right side of the law, and I can tell you they have resources you would not believe when they want to know something.

    I agree that when it comes to dealing with most African Countries but it's been a very long time and the political fallout has already taken a toll. Not earth shaking but still.

    Maybe justice will be done in the end where she will be charged with filing a false report and if they play her right they can find out who either put her up to it, or paid her to.

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    Re: Strauss-Kahn Case Seen as in Jeopardy

    Here's a case where I bought into the hype for the most part. Strauss-Khan's past history, his high position, the media's coverage leveraging how he was in line for the French Presidency, yadda yadda.... I swallowed it and said to myself, "Yep, the guy probably has an overblown ego, thought he could do whatever he wanted; guilty. The only thing that didn't make sense to me was why he would have left the hotel after the alleged rape, and go to lunch instead of going right to the plane. The guy was perp walked - I mean it's NYC. NOW we find out this may have been a scam... the supposed victim is less than credible and Strauss-Khan may be set free today. I think we as citizens also WANT to believe the victim out of sympathy or empathy... this was a good lesson for me yet again. DON'T BUY INTO THE HYPE - in fact, ignore it. Fact only no matter how bad it looks. I'm reminded of 2006, Crystal Magnum, a DA named Nifong (now disbarred and disgraced) and how this bi-polar, pill popping stripper....



    Destroyed the lives of 3 young men. Who is this 32 year old house keeper? Why has she been hidden away?


    We need a conversation on how woman have the power to destroy someone's life with an accusation. My opinion here is if such an accusation is false and found to be false - the penalty should be exacting and severe. So severe that it would make such a false accusation to terrible as to not be attempted.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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